No, that's incorrect. If the explanation for high rates of incarceration in the United States was largely the result of incarcerating non-violent offenders, you would expect to see a discrepancy between the overall incarceration rate and the rate of violent offenses. I.e. You would expect to see that the United States locks up a far greater percentage of their population despite comparably lower rates of homicide and violent crime. But we don't see that, the United States locks of several multiples of the UK on a per capita basis, but it also suffers several multiples the rate of homicide. That's not to say that we shouldn't do anything about the over-punishment of (solely) non-violent offenders, but it is not the explanation for American incarceration rates.

I have explained to you why crack cocaine and powder cocaine are charged differently. And I've explained why the quote of one estranged advisor from the Nixon administration is not particularly relevant when discussing 1980s drug enforcement. I'm not sure what you mean by "regurgitating facts", I am discussing the examples you brought up, because they don't mean what you think they mean. Rather than hopping to the next topic, try to understand what I'm saying, and then ascertain whether it makes sense, and whether you agree or disagree.

This post was edited by bogie160 on May 26 2022 08:16am

Liberals trying to redefine the crime problem in America as an incarceration problem in America is why there's a nonstop revolving door where recidivist felons with 20+ convictions get a suspended sentence / dismissed charges on their 21st violent felony. Statistically, its just the necessary consequence. If you want to lower the incarceration rates but there's a wildly disproportionate amount of violent offenders, you have to let violent offenders go free.

For example today in Minnesota, Teigre Ramone Collins was convicted and sentenced after luring, robbing and carjacking a Door Dash deliverer at gunpoint. Numerous priors including domestic assault, 1st degree aggravated robbery, terroristic threats, felony auto theft, being a felon in possession of a gun. The judge and prosecutors lowered his new charges down from aggravated robbery/assault/etc all the way to a single count of felon in possession of a firearm. Which carries a 5 year in prison minimum sentence. Which Judge Teresa Warner then put a stay of imposition on. Long criminal history, lots of violent felonies, commits a crime that a reasonable person should say should put you in prison for life after that many strikes, and instead walks out the door scot free. Walks out free despite it being legislated as a mandatory minimum sentence.

Nobody sees any of this happen because its not making headlines, its not visible to the public. But liberals think the issue to gun violence is to just legislate more gun law crimes? When we already refuse to enforce the ones on the books?

This post was edited by Goomshill on May 26 2022 08:31am

You can write big blocks, you still have guys who do 6 years for stealing a bike

https://www.bicycleretailer.com/industry-news/2021/08/11/man-sentenced-6-years-bike-theft-reselling-pawn-shop

tl;dr of this thread today: blacks be treated fair naaaaaamsayin

Yes and you conveniently ignored the part where he had eighteen prior convictions.
You can't even argue by anecdotal whataboutism well. I guess that rules you out as a Russian agent, at least

I've brought up Chicago in almost every post in this thread because it's a perfect example of how only when a school shooting happens people care but when kids/teens/bystanders get killed/shot every single day in Chicago no one cares.

There's usually 40 reported shootings a DAY during summer when it's bad and 5-10 people die every weekend. I should also mention those numbers are drastically skewed to the downside because they don't normally include gang on gang crimes which go unreported(murders included) and because our city is so scared were losing more and more tourist every year because of safety issues they LIE and say "Crime is down" or "Less shootings compared to last year at this time" which is patently false.

Where are all the liberal snowflakes to stand up for these innocent people? Why does the MSM never cover the WORST area in terms of gun crimes and where the biggest gun control lobbyist should be? Where is BLM considering more then half of the shootings involve African Americans?

Ill tell you why. Those people only care when there's an opportunity to further their "agenda". Forget the 8 year old girl killed by a stray bullet on her birthday "WE" can't do anything with that.

Only when there's mass casualties from a deranged lunatic THEN people want to talk or do something.

The schools aren't safe because the STREETS aren't safe. They are connected. You think a 12 year old who joins the bloods,crips, latin kings, gd's on the STREETS doesn't carry that gang mentality into school?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/06/us/las-vegas-gun-deaths.html

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on May 26 2022 08:58am

All in the game, yo

~Omar

Annnnnnd that's a MIC DROP game ender post right there. Well done.

Couldn't have said it any better.

People only care if white suburban kids are victims. 1-2 black kids per city getting shot while in school is acceptable to white folks.

Problem with this kind of analysis is that over-policing breeds higher crime rates in the long run.

It's a vicious cycle that's really hard to break out of. The only way we're going to actually break out of it is by shifting resources to the over-policed areas to improve quality of life and education.

But it's easier and a better crowd pleaser to just give the police a tank.