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Sep 8 2021 05:52pm
Quote (18nomaUSEast @ Sep 8 2021 04:51pm)
Capitalism can yield negative results, too.


Not sure what you are trying to say. We are not talking about capitalism.
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Sep 8 2021 05:53pm
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Not sure what you are trying to say. We are not talking about capitalism.


Private employers have every right to terminate employees. This is one of many harsh realities related to regularly voting in anti-regulation governments.

But really I was just posting meme shit like your previous post:

Quote (JessiWan @ 8 Sep 2021 19:48)
The CDC can be wrong, too.




This post was edited by 18nomaUSEast on Sep 8 2021 05:55pm
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Sep 8 2021 05:57pm
Quote (18nomaUSEast @ Sep 8 2021 07:47pm)
Current science disagrees with you, source: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/delta-variant.html

Go to Google and look up how many times the CDC has changed their stance on crap with COVID. They've contradicted themselves and lied so many times, they aren't even a credible source at this point. :rofl:

Did you even READ what you quoted? What you said "disagrees" with me is actually agreeing. :rofl:

-Unvaccinated people remain the greatest concern: The greatest risk of transmission is among unvaccinated people who are much more likely to get infected, and therefore transmit the virus. Fully vaccinated people get COVID-19 (known as breakthrough infections) less often than unvaccinated people. People infected with the Delta variant, including fully vaccinated people with symptomatic breakthrough infections, can transmit the virus to others. CDC is continuing to assess data on whether fully vaccinated people with asymptomatic breakthrough infections can transmit the virus.

-Fully vaccinated people with Delta variant breakthrough infections can spread the virus to others. However, vaccinated people appear to spread the virus for a shorter time: For prior variants, lower amounts of viral genetic material were found in samples taken from fully vaccinated people who had breakthrough infections than from unvaccinated people with COVID-19. For people infected with the Delta variant, similar amounts of viral genetic material have been found among both unvaccinated and fully vaccinated people. However, like prior variants, the amount of viral genetic material may go down faster in fully vaccinated people when compared to unvaccinated people. This means fully vaccinated people will likely spread the virus for less time than unvaccinated people.
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#324
Sep 8 2021 05:58pm
Quote (18nomaUSEast @ Sep 8 2021 04:53pm)
Private employers have every right to terminate employees. This is one of many harsh realities related to regularly voting in anti-regulation governments.

I don't know about in your country but in mine, employers cannot fire workers for political reasons. In other words, if the boss believes that vaccines save lives, however the employee doesn't, he cannot be fired on that grounds alone. And FYI, not taking the vaccines is NOT the same as endangering other people's lives.
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#325
Sep 8 2021 05:58pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Sep 8 2021 07:48pm)
It's all but certain that vaccination prevents spread to some degree. It's almost certainly not totally eliminated, but it is incredibly unlikely that vaccination doesn't help some.


I'm sure, just like flu vaccine prevents some spread.

I think people should come to the reality that Covid in all likelihood is here to stay. So far I haven't seen anything to suggest it wont, considering we're getting new variants every few months. With time it will be viewed just as another fact of life we deal with like cancer, like the flu, like driving deaths, like alcohol deaths and so on. So it makes sense for us to adapt to that way of thinking instead of moving the goal posts of what are acceptable freedoms, but in reality I think this is going to be the patriot act all over again. 20 years later, the war time measures curtailments of freedom have become the norm.
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#326
Sep 8 2021 05:59pm
Quote (net @ 8 Sep 2021 19:57)
Go to Google and look up how many times the CDC has changed their stance on crap with COVID. They've contradicted themselves and lied so many times, they aren't even a credible source at this point. :rofl:

Did you even READ what you quoted? What you said "disagrees" with me is actually agreeing. :rofl:

-Unvaccinated people remain the greatest concern: The greatest risk of transmission is among unvaccinated people who are much more likely to get infected, and therefore transmit the virus. Fully vaccinated people get COVID-19 (known as breakthrough infections) less often than unvaccinated people. People infected with the Delta variant,including fully vaccinated people with symptomatic breakthrough infections, can transmit the virus to others. CDC is continuing to assess data on whether fully vaccinated people with asymptomatic breakthrough infections can transmit the virus.

-Fully vaccinated people with Delta variant breakthrough infections can spread the virus to others. However, vaccinated people appear to spread the virus for a shorter time: For prior variants, lower amounts of viral genetic material were found in samples taken from fully vaccinated people who had breakthrough infections than from unvaccinated people with COVID-19. For people infected with the Delta variant, similar amounts of viral genetic material have been found among both unvaccinated and fully vaccinated people. However, like prior variants, the amount of viral genetic material may go down faster in fully vaccinated people when compared to unvaccinated people. This means fully vaccinated people will likely spread the virus for less time than unvaccinated people.


Science is literally defined by adopting new evidence and adapting prevailing beliefs based on same.

And if you want to ignore 75% of the quote and highlight only the 25% that fit your narrative out of context, have at it.
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#327
Sep 8 2021 05:59pm
Quote (18nomaUSEast @ Sep 8 2021 04:53pm)


But really I was just posting meme shit like your previous post:


Oh I see. So when people disagree with you, you take it personally.
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Sep 8 2021 05:59pm
Quote (JessiWan @ 8 Sep 2021 19:58)
I don't know about in your country but in mine, employers cannot fire workers for political reasons. In other words, if the boss believes that vaccines save lives, however the employee doesn't, he cannot be fired on that grounds alone. And FYI, not taking the vaccines is NOT the same as endangering other people's lives.


What country do you live in?
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#329
Sep 8 2021 06:00pm
Quote (18nomaUSEast @ 8 Sep 2021 16:53)
Private employers have every right to terminate employees.


Private employers? Such as the US Military? The Department of Health and Human Services? The Department of Veteran Affairs?

The list of government agencies mandating vaccines or termination of employment is growing. Yet there's been no congressional law passed requiring vaccination. Seems we're using extrajudicial means (aka tyranny) at the GOVERNMENT level to attempt to violate citizens' bodily autonomy, no?
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#330
Sep 8 2021 06:01pm
Quote (18nomaUSEast @ Sep 8 2021 04:59pm)
Science is literally defined by adopting new evidence and adapting prevailing beliefs based on same.

And if you want to ignore 75% of the quote and highlight only the 25% that fit your narrative out of context, have at it.


25% wrong is a lot of stuff for an authority like the CDC.

And you are ignoring what he is saying. If even the CDC is admitting that being vaccinated means you can still spread covid, then what's the point?
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