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Aug 19 2021 07:53am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Aug 19 2021 08:48am)
The odd part is that our primary disagreement is the perspective. "I don't like the Taliban" comes from a western perspective, the idea of having them in control of your own nation. You're sympathizing with people when you don't share basic values. That's a mistake. When viewing leadership from a foreign perspective, it's important to empathize. That requires putting yourself in their shoes, understanding their values, etc. So from a "for the good of the Afghani people" perspective, the Taliban seems to be exactly what they need: A strong leadership by nationalists who share the basic values of the population, and are willing to fight for the independence and sovereignty of their Nation.

For my part? I much prefer the Taliban to Hamas. My main concern when it comes to foreign governments is that they aren't attempting to attack their neighboring nations. The Taliban never did that. Hamas does regularly. So from the empathy standpoint, the Taliban is fine. From the "what's best for the rest of the world" standpoint, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the Taliban. Anyhow, things to do. Fun chat. :)


it's pretty telling that you can only put yourself into the men's shoes.

you use religious text you dont believe in to justify the enslavement of 50% of the population under a real patriarchy that makes what hairy arm pitted feminists cry about in the US look like a utopia.

i'm somehow making a mistake for disagreeing with hardline Islam? i think places like that are shitty, recognize its unlikely they'd change, but when all hope for change (that was slim to begin with) is lost i'm "making a mistake". ok.

"just dont cross your borders and you're fine". so u support the Kims in North Korea too?

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Aug 19 2021 08:07am
good.
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Aug 19 2021 09:52am
Lots of citizens marching the streets today on Afghanistan's independence day, many with flags and speakerphones opposing Taliban.

I saw one video with a HUGE Afghan flag that had to be 50 feet long down the street being carried by dozens of people. Another video of a guy climbing a pole to take down the Taliban flag and replacing it again with the Afghanistan flag. Gotta love to see it.


Saw one where a Taliban fighter was about to shoot someone protesting, and another Taliban fighter grabbed his gun and stopped him. You can tell they're being told to avoid direct violence as much as possible right now to put on this act that they're civil lol.

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Aug 19 2021 09:54am
About time we left the mess Bush got us into.
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Aug 19 2021 10:01am
Independence day protest in #kabul. Women and girls, men and boys screaming LONG LIVE #Afghanistan OUR NATIONAL FLAG IS OUR IDENTITY! They marched past #Taliban with some Talibs screaming back at protestors, waving their guns at them but finally the protestors passed.
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Aug 19 2021 10:05am
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Arranged marriages were the norm in western culture for thousands of years. Your arbitrary decision on age is meaningless.

And there was no point with the new government where anything would be resolved regarding the female role in Afghanistan society, or the consequences of homosexuality, dissidents, or whatever else. They're still a 99.7% Sunni Muslim nation. They don't follow western law, they follow Sharia. Sharia imposes duties on men and women, and their prophet set the precedent for the acceptable age of consummation. Sharia is pretty clear about the consequences of homosexuality. Sharia is pretty clear about the consequence of dissenting against leadership. The fact is, even if we had managed the situation in such a way that the Taliban laid down their weapons and accepted the new government, within just a couple election cycles of US withdrawal, Taliban leaders would have ended up voted back in control. Pew Research has been on top of this issue for years.

The reason that the Taliban had nearly total control of the nation when we invaded was not because they were just that vicious. It was because the majority of the population agreed with them. So rather than allowing them to retain control, we supported dissidents that the majority in Afghanistan did not agree with, who's practices were haram. No matter what we thought we were going to accomplish when it comes to human rights in Afghanistan, it was always slated to fail. And the reason is simple: Their society is built around the tenants of their religion. And they are NOT open to changing that.



We agree. The desire to rape prepubescent children is not a culture. And the Taliban's penalty for anyone who commits it is execution.


no, you were describing islam as pedophilia and trying to normalize it. raping children is not culture even if a fake prophet did that.

and it has nothing to do with afganistan, islam promotes pedophilia worldwide.

to be exact, muslims believe any girl is ready for rape when she has her first cycle. so if a girl has her first cycle at 10 or 11 or 12 or 13 or... the girl is ready to be raped by a muslim adult.

muslims in the United Kingdom promote this non stop. same in France, Germany, Sweden, etc.

it's islam that is wrong for being pedophilic, it has nothing to do with a "remote islamic culture somewhere in the world".

islam worldwide is pedophilia. maybe this is why antifa loves islam so much since antifa are or promote pedophiles as well.
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Aug 19 2021 10:13am
Lets not forget many muslims (including many female muslims) claim that chomohamed was the first feminist. imagine a bloodthirsty murderer that was also a pedophile rapist to be the first feminist.

they are so far off the deep end nothing can stop the delusion. this is why radicals decapitate teachers on the streets of France while moderates support this.

the issue is moderates what the radicals to kill us all as we are, one way or another, infidels.

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After some thought I am fine with muslims coming over and raping our women.

They just beat us in a 20 year war using nothing but sticks and rocks. Imagine how good they could do with our modern military. Honeslty, I think we should just accept we are beaten.
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After some thought I am fine with muslims coming over and raping our women.

They just beat us in a 20 year war using nothing but sticks and rocks. Imagine how good they could do with our modern military. Honeslty, I think we should just accept we are beaten.


They can't fathom an elliptical exercise machine but defeated the US army.

This is basically the plot of every star wars movie.

Taliban are basically ewoks.
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Aug 19 2021 01:07pm
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They can't fathom an elliptical exercise machine but defeated the US army.

This is basically the plot of every star wars movie.

Taliban are basically ewoks.


They're just die hard fanatics. Can't change their minds
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