Quote (Black XistenZ @ 17 Oct 2020 16:54)

That's really a devious trick, isnt it? The mainstream media sweep these stories under the rug, and then liberals use this very fact to refuse replying to the substance of the accusations. "Only discredited outlets like the nypost or breitbart report on this, so it must be untrue, and I dont even have to look at the facts to arrive at this conclusion."

Quote (MizzouFTW @ Oct 17 2020 05:45pm)

Ha. Hahahaha. Hahahhahahhahha

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/are-trump-allies-peddling-russian-disinformation-about-the-bidens

Quote (bogie160 @ Oct 17 2020 05:08pm)

To summarize PBS in short, "we cannot verify the information".

Quote (MizzouFTW @ Oct 17 2020 06:19pm)

Its a hell of a lot better than what ol Rudy has. About a thousand times more believable as well

Quote (bogie160 @ Oct 17 2020 06:24pm)

PBS's conclusion is that they can neither prove nor disprove the Post's story.

Quote (excellence @ Oct 17 2020 08:11am)

the fbi also started an investigation into scully’s twitter account to see if ‘russia’ hacked it too. of course he was lying but they seem to investigate everything under the guise of ‘russia’


man first ukraine now china who else.

next we will see the harris/biden campaign blaming ‘russia’ for the laptops. wait that’s already happening :lol:

Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 17 2020 07:30am)

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-china-email-source-verifies

Pretty important development here:

• An independent source, one of the people in the email chain leaked, confirms it is real.
  
• Multiple sources involved in the email chain confirm that "the big guy" in the remuneration package breakdown was a reference to Joe Biden, as were other instances of "the big guy"

So to be clear: this plan called for Joe Biden to be paid directly by the corrupt Chinese energy firm
The Bidens were given a 30% cut of the CEFC, with 20% going to Hunter Biden and 10% going to Joe Biden personally.

this is a separate deal than the Burisma one- this was another email chain. The Chinese firm was set up with multiple businessmen who have since been either charged with corruption or mysteriously disappeared by the Chinese central government. It was a deal with the CEFC, who's chairman was accused of corruption by the Chinese and disappeared in early 2018. The CEFC itself then went bankrupt and was dissolved. The deal would pay Biden $10 million "for introductions alone", and so presumably Joe Biden was to be paid $5 million. Another top lieutenant from the Chinese firm personally agreed to pay Hunter Biden $1 million in one of the emails, before he was convicted of paying millions in bribes to African government officials for oil rights.

Quote (thundercock @ Oct 17 2020 06:35pm)

I mean the laptop story is very clearly bullshit. As many have said, it's very possible that these emails are legitimate. I don't think anyone is really holding their breath though since Breitbart and NY Post LITERALLY make things up. If Jacobin had an "exclusive" on Trump's "pee tapes" I'd treat that with equal skepticism.



See, this is more reliable, don't you think? Is the accusation that Joe Biden lied on his tax returns or was he never paid by the Chinese?
How many total emails are we at now that are released? Under 10 still?

Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 17 2020 03:54pm)

Shell corporations aren't pass through tax entities. They are C-corps so Biden could have 500 million dollars in that entity and it would not reflect at all on his personal tax bill.

It's like you choose to be purposefully obtuse here. Why is quantity of incriminating emails so important? At how many would you change your mind? Does having less than a specific number make it less credible or?

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Former spooks told Business Insider that Rudy Giuliani’s role in a widely discredited New York Post story and President Donald Trump’s willingness to seize on it highlights how vulnerable they are to being duped by Russian intelligence.
Giuliani’s access to Trump, the two men’s personality traits, their eagerness to obtain dirt on the Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, and unwillingness to acknowledge Russian interference makes them a goldmine for foreign intelligence services, former spies said.
They are “grotesquely vulnerable, exploitable targets” and “any foreign intelligence service would be derelict if they did not try to exploit this,” said a former CIA covert operative.