Those particular terms, he uses ad nauseum.

Cant stop riding my dick

SAD!

pretty sure no one in iran is happy with the crippling sanctions imposed on them by america, or the fact that practically every political, religious, or military leader is just a tweet away from being assassinated.

as much as i hate the prospect of even more shitty regimes having access to nuclear weapons, i can certainly understand the rationale behind iran's desire to have them. considering america's history and presence in the region, only mutually assured destruction seems to be an effective deterrent. they don't seem to care about treaties or democratically elected leaders.

for those wondering how iran became a shitty authoritarian theocracy, maybe a little history lesson could help. i'd suggest starting in 1953...

I think Iran is making the foolish calculation that if they follow North Korea's lead they'll get the same result. the Hedgehog approach, no one fears a hedgehog, but no one approaches it either.

however, North Korea has less natural resources by most estimates, has a massive amount of conventional artillery pointed at the south, has Chinese backing on their only other border, is within concievable range of American friendly targets or america itself, etc.

Whereas Iran has far more points of entry, less conventional artillery, and close neighbors that dont have the same backing mentality China has towards NK. They can't get a nuke to us or a Japan-esque target other than Israel. with whom they share a massive number of holy religious sites. and Israel may be able to shoot down a nuke that they launch, not enough is known to say what would even happen.

I don't see a nuke as the same sort of deterrant to war that North Korea has.

i doubt any of these problems relate to any of that.like i stated in previous post was based upon politics and greed. united states i believe back in 1995-96 supplied a shit ton of weapons to literally half the middle east for obvious reasons then shit obviously turned against the U.S. at the end of the day we cannot have the middle east unregulated/unchecked and free to do what they want. especially cannot have any of them nuclear capable. i dont know about you but id rather step on the wasp before it has a chance to sting me.

This post was edited by kalelvszod on Jan 6 2020 05:29pm

There are many problems that directly stem from those events even today. The history of WWI is far more interesting than WW2 IMO. Much further reaching consequences (as one of its consequences was WWII.) It was the death throes of the old world and its monarchs.

I find it interesting that you cite a huge problem originating from the US providing weapons then conclude that the middle east being free from us would be a problem. Radical Islam for example was a direct result of our own pushing for the radicalization of the region so they would resist Russia. Seems to me that the long term problems have largely been our creation.

100% agreed, i still think it's their main motivation.

again you make good points but i disagree with you except for one thing (bolded) and thats our gov'ts ignoring a snowball thats been going downhill gaining mass and speed but soon is gonna hit a wall and explode.

Everything I said was a fact except the part that I specified as opinion.

again not disagreeing with you but i think this whole conversation is just based upon opinion we will never truly know the direct causes but as long as we know our history we can better understand the matter at hand