This is winning to me considering troops are coming home. Less Americans in danger and more money saved considering we don't have to pay active-duty to 5k people. The sooner the other 14k soldiers come home the better.

I don't really know what to think of the Taliban but honestly i don't view them in the same light as al-qaeda or isis. They just want their own little corner of the earth without empires imposing their standards. I get that they are into stoning adulterers and marrying kids and that's bad, but after this many decades it's hard for me to see how wasting lives and tax payer dollars will solve anything

so basically "this is a win because we failed so hard for so long". on that front i agree, too many deaths over there for almost no result.

This is a win because for non interventionists ending an intervention is almost always a good. This was a failure because we went in there to begin with. The 6 trillion we spent on these dumb ass wars could a. been saved, so less debt, or b. used for something useful for the average american like infrastructure.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/the-washington-posts-lost-summer
https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/the-washington-posts-lost-summer/

Examiner takes the Post to task

basically one biased outlet criticizing another biased outlet, but they bring the goods in some objective facts.
It boils down to: The Post wrote a piece criticizing Trump for doing nothing all summer. The administration had provided them a list of 26 accomplishments over the summer, and the post chose to report only 4 of the bullet points on their list, and ignored the other 22, then claimed Trump had wasted his summer. But other journalists had been furnished that same list, and called out the post for their blatantly slanted reporting;


Its pretty hard to take the post's review of Trump's summer seriously when they're going to just ignore moments that kids are going to see pictured in history textbooks 30 years from now.

The other side minimized what we exaggerate the importance and impact of

Is what that boiled down to

Ignoring the majority of the list altogether is lame tho especially if pushing a he did nothing narrative so the exaggerator beats the minimizer

Its impossible to win this kind of war because the press would interfere. If anything we should just pay china to genocide them.

https://reason.com/2019/09/06/no-trump-rallies-didnt-increase-hate-crimes-by-226-percent/
https://news.yahoo.com/econ-students-debunk-study-showing-212638693.html

more fake news debunked

Remember those people that claimed their study showed a 'drastic rise in hate crimes near Trump rallies'? It was even tweeted by Bernie Sanders and Ilhan Omar.
Well, it was trivial to debunk: They didn't control for population size. They compared the number of hate crimes in counties that held rallies to those that didn't, and claimed it was 226% higher. They did not count crimes per capita or otherwise control for population. They counted 3.2 million population Orange County in California as the same value as 88 population Kalawao County in Hawaii. They did not account for the fact that political rallies are obviously going to take place in counties with higher populations than average.

When these two PHDs ran the same study on Hillary Clinton rallies, they found an even larger increase in hate crimes than the original research did with Trump rallies. When they ran the same study and controlled per capita, then found no significant correlation whatsoever, no increase.

Liars shouldn't be allowed to have a voice.

The one advantage militarily that China has over the US is number of troops, if they tried to invade the only thing that would happen would be a lot of dead Chinese soldiers at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean.

Might be worth mentioning that the authors of the article are the White House press secretaries.