Unless you're Trump and there are no consequences for your actions 1946-2018+

What consequences should he face for saying mean stuff as the President?

This post was edited by Chainsaw47 on Jun 1 2018 08:30am

I'm more talking about rape, fraud, abuse of power, corruption

you know

the biggies or should I say biglys

"This is wrong, advertisers shouldn't pick sides in these situations. It's an attack on free speach" - Conservatives when a Conservative TV host loses advertisers

"Who care's about advertisers she needs to lose her job. This isn't nearly enough." Conservatives when Samantha Bee loses advertisers.

"This willy nilly firing of people has gone too far. Let the free market decide how the public feels about the host. Advertiser Boycotts are dumb." Conservatives when a Conservative host is fired, like Papa Bear.

It's just insane to think Trump doesn't have an effect on the tone of the political discourse in the country. He's the president... he's on television everyday, people are influenced by what he says and does.

You didn’t answer the question. He has faced accusations for some of the stuff you mention, but I can’t help it if you’re not satisfied with the results.



I don’t think it’s insane to expect people to own up to what they say instead of saying ‘it’s Trump’s fault I said awful stuff on TV’. Maybe you or some people are too easily influenced.

This post was edited by Chainsaw47 on Jun 1 2018 08:35am

Does that apply to Obama, in regard to the tone of discourse or lack thereof on race relations, or does this only apply to Trump ?

A very marginally small influence, sure. Not to the extent where you can blame anything & everything on him, like you guys like to do.

and I was talking about you saying people being responsible for their actions

paying their way out of very serious crimes (consequences for actions) for half a century is not being responsible for actions, while poor people rot in cages for significantly lesser offenses

but hopefully Kim K can get us on track with criminal justice reform and holding people accountable for their actions

That's fine, but people overvalue his effect or undervalue it from the right perspective. No one seems to be able to actually dial in the effect itself.

Trump running in 2008 would have been a bigger circus with him likely not clearing the primaries. Post 9-11 we got serious about politics, even if clowns still made it in. Trump being voted in in the first place is a reflection of the times, a reflection of what reality TV and social media have done to society. We're as a people looking for more entertainment in every aspect of life. With that entertainment value comes a lowered discourse generally.

People seem to think we all started getting rude and polarized under Trump. Or from the other side it's "HURRR DURR OBAMA SAID HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN MY SON, COUNTRY FOREVER FRACTURED!!!!!!!!! reeeeeeeeee".

we've been heading this way for a while, and even Trump's actions are a reflection of this. as an entertainer he's more prone to public pressure than more serious president's before him. Yet I turn on CNN and hear the retards there spew straight bullshit like "well when you have a president emboldening these people daily with every word he says, this is the result." Implied cause, implied direct effect. And those are the slick ones, the pundits paid to be there by the DNC make much more direct claims.

People would be better served to see Trump as the effect, rather than the cause. they'd be closer to the truth with that than to scapegoat a guy that nearly 50% of the country voted for with a smile.

You didn’t answer the question, again. What consequences should he face?