Quote (BrendanSchaub @ Aug 11 2019 07:49pm)

I worry about the environmental impact of soy-production.
I'm European, btw. You might call me a disgruntled simian.

Quote (BrendanSchaub @ Aug 11 2019 07:40pm)

I have no qualms with hunting for sustenance, provided all of the animal is used and the hunting is done ethically (with preservation in mind and all that good stuff). Fairly sure, I'm not killing anything myself tho. Don't need to, thank Jeebus.

You know what rattles my cage? Vegans with cats (or any pet that's a carnivore).


Edit: double post. Apologies to those that care about that stuff.

Quote (Handcuffs @ Aug 12 2019 04:54am)

It's a valid concern. Who knows? Maybe lab-grown meat will end up being the future. :P

Quote (Beowulf @ Aug 12 2019 04:56am)

you'll def have a prob with my country veganism

2-3 rescue dogs at any given time

that'll never change

the feeding process is as ethical as I can get it working with local hunters and ranchers but there is definitely no extremism in my veganism but am consistent with abiding by my conscience and reducing contribution to harm on a personal basis

Quote (BrendanSchaub @ Aug 11 2019 07:58pm)

Might very well be.

I can see myself trying it, provided it's safe and cheap. Not sure though.



I'm assuming you're feeding them from the meat you hunt (edit: or other hunters) I have no real problem with that. But I wouldn't call you vegan, bruv, so you get a pass.

I was more talking about dem hipster vegans that give you shit for eating free range eggs, but have a dog/cat that they buy tinned food for.

Quote (Beowulf @ Aug 12 2019 05:08am)

it's a fair view

and could be easily seen as factually correct

I mainly go with the label so when i go back and forth with the meat worshipers and people that shit on people trying to live more ethically I can give the team a good name

Quote (BrendanSchaub @ Aug 11 2019 08:12pm)

Fair enough.

Anyone that steers clear of factory farming is a don in my book.

Quote (Handcuffs @ Aug 12 2019 12:09pm)

Personally, I don't do eggs because of the conditions that chickens are kept in and because, at least in factory egg production, they kill/grind up living male chicks because they won't ever produce eggs and they produce too little meat to make it profitable to keep/feed them into maturity. Now, I could certainly buy local, free-range eggs, but in so doing I think I would be contributing to a movement not in which we abandon the utilization of animals but instead one that does it in less unethical ways. Part of the challenge too is that even when supporting local free-range, you're allowing them to maintain the chicken/operation until the chicken gets killed off for meat anyway despite it not being your actual purchase. Local free-range is absolutely 100% better than factory farming, but I'd still rather be removed from the system altogether as much as I can.

I don't eat honey myself, because I don't each much of anything with honey to begin with, so that was very easy for me to "give up".

Quote (Plaguefear @ Aug 11 2019 08:30pm)

I have my own 7 chickens and they are treated better than most peoples children.

Quote (Handcuffs @ Aug 12 2019 02:50pm)

I have no doubts about that.

Quote (Plaguefear @ Aug 12 2019 02:51pm)

Ill take pics of the chicken taj mahal i built them some time, they roam free range in my 500 square metre back yard in the day time.
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