You gave one over-simplified example of a situation in which obvious sensory fail is easily detectable. How about a situation in which 2 senses are not contradicting each other? For example you stick your hand in water and it feels warm, yet it is cold?

Well, even almost freezing water would not feel same than boiling water, anyone with a rational mind would make difference (and it's even more obvious when not on the extremes).
What you mean exactly, you cannot make difference between warm and cold water ? What is the 2nd sense contradicting in your exemple ?

The mind can probably create "sensory fail" as you say, but not the 5 life senses themselves... they can be "broken", but you generaly have at least 4 working... It's all about getting the mind out of the way so it doesn't corrupt the life you recieve through your 5 senses.
Without mind blocking, your senses are working at their maximum potential (they can still be physically "broken", I mean if you are deaf you will still be deaf).
Also, when you do not use your mind if you do not need it, it will become more powerful when you need it.
It is a win win path.
"The mind is like a parachute : it doesn't work unless it's open."

???

Use your mind during relaxed times excercise it, then during times of stress it will be ready


I assume thats what he's saying

really? cuz i got the opposite, (save your mind for when you really need it).

Upon re-reading, I believe you are right.

Which makes no sense at all. Your brain acts like a muscle. Use it more, it becomes stronger

EDIT: And now in retrospect I believe thats why you put a ? to his post, because it makes no sense.

yay for me being slow today

This post was edited by Impose on Dec 2 2012 07:03pm

well there was a bunch of negatives in that one sentence, making it hard as fuck to parse.

maybe you were just saving up your brain power for later!

I am telling you your senses can fail you. How do you reconcile that with your claim that the five senses are how you determine absolute truth? Because if your senses can fail you, then there is a non-zero chance that what they report to you is not real (and therefore your senses do not report the truth).

You failed reading once more.
Try again.

I will quote some paragraphs of The Present (with religion) that explain this better than me :

"True life: You are only receiving a very small percent of all the light that enters your eyes, the sounds that enter your ears, the sensations coming from inside and outside your body, all the scents in the air and tastes in food. Your mind is distorting, filtering, interpreting and blocking most of it as shown in the drawing."

"Fatal focus: Your mind concentrates or focuses your attention mostly on the sense of sight and thought. This is because those senses helped our survival the most in the past. In trying to save our lives, we focus on just part of it, and in doing it, we do not get the whole; we do not receive our true life."

"There are times when you need to focus on part of life; for work, to learn things, and in dangerous situations, but the rest of the time, you do not have to. A spiritual being’s attention focuses and expands depending on the situation.

To work you have to focus on a small part of life, and a spiritual person becomes completely focused and gets it done, but does it only while working or studying.

Example: You have to focus to read this book, but when you stop reading it, you can open up again. To read and learn something new, you have to use your mind, so you cannot be aware of much else while you do it, but it is necessary. You have to be focused when driving a car or around dangerous things, but when you are not, you can open up all the way. You will know where and when not to open up; you just have to be sure to open up every time you can.

You focus completely when you need to, then you open up completely. Stop doing things just part way. Start doing things all the way, 100%.

Judge ye not: You have to reprogram your mind to stop judging the value of one moment over another, or one sense over another, until they fall in balance and melt together. Instead of focusing on part of life, you focus on all of life. You do it by not focusing at all.
Your mind does the focusing, so all you have to do is open it up. Your eyes will still focus reflexively without the mind, but on the widest possible field of vision. You will know when your mind is open, because everything becomes new.

You will live deliberately and more consciously of your every action, so you do not have to worry about letting go. By letting go of what is out of control, you get control. By letting go of nothing, you get everything. By letting go of the illusion, you can see reality for the first time.

You do not need all five senses to know true life. You can be deaf and blind and still experience it. It is just about getting your mind out of the way.

It is just a change of perspective, from being a man/spirit to a spirit/man.

The start of the quest for true life: You start by getting to know just one sense at a time. Start with the ones you have neglected, such as your sense of smell. The senses you have not been using to their full potential will take time to wake up; they have been semi-dead for a long time.

Our senses give our spirit a window to the physical universe.

Our bodies have just one purpose, and that is to support our senses. Our bodies are simply a physical support system for our senses.

This is because it is our senses that open up the world of physical life to us. Our bodies just protect and move our senses around for us. Our bodies and physical life have no other reason for being. We need to become our senses.

You just have to remember that the goal of your life is to be more aware of it. How can that not be the most important, most worthwhile thing to do?

You need to know that living as open as possible, as much as possible, is the way. You normally would not want to try to feel, see, hear, smell and taste everything in the present as much as you can. You will now."

Well I could quote some more, but maybe just check it for yourself ?

While that quote explained what you are attempting to do, I understand what you're attempting to do. I have no qualms with your attempting to increase your awareness; I have a problem with your claim that the truth is what we empirically experience with our five senses.