>didn’t read the books
>hasn’t watched the show

Accusing others of repeating talking points

This post was edited by IgoSoHard on Sep 20 2022 11:02am

its funny because the "she's totally like her book self" narrative comes directly from anti-anti-PC media people. those who gleaned small bits of the text, ignored the body of the text, and extrapolate on JRRT's death bed letters where he retconned most of the characters, Galadriel included. Out of nowhere and seemingly unsupported by text she became "amazonian". a concept JRRT failed to convey despite having ample space to, and despite making her physically imposing from the start.

overall there's only really 2 places in all of the text she could be assumed to have fought physically, in defense of Feanor and in the taking of Dol Guldur. The latter more explicitly with magic rather than arms, the former being vague to the extreme.

her talents lie in the same vein as her ring of power, those of water, drawing from the Silmaril embedded in the stars. It is by her grace that Lothlorien remained unharmed for so long. and her talents lie in foresight and concealment.

I don't even have an issue with her being a bad ass warrior. she's freakishly large for an elf, especially for an elf maiden. and she's so old it makes sense that she's skilled at arms given the wars she's seen. i just dont like being told that it's in the texts, because for a character that's central to the Silmarillion it isn't. Overall I really enjoy RoP for what it is, and i dont even mean that as a slight. It's a reimagining of the War of the Rings expanding on what in reality is a vague text that's not well outlined based on short stories, notes, and letters of a dead guy compiled by his son using the talks he had with his father as the metaphorical glue. It was only ever really a reference text to make names randomly mentioned in the main series have context.

Is this actually the narrative? Because she isn't like herself in LOTR. But there's indications in the books that their younger selves were more similar.

What I've seen is conservatives getting mad before the series even came out because she would even have a sword and the response to that was basically "uhhh no, she's fought plenty of times"

If you want to dig more into the specifics I can't do that, but Galadriel was definitely capable of being a warrior and had that in her history

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Sep 20 2022 01:18pm

firstly, younger being a relative term. at this time she's already thousands of years old. whereas the show runners seem to be showing her as a youthful impulsive self. per the lore she'd be far more like her self in LOTR than an actual younger self. by the 2nd age she's already been through more shit than almost anyone else in existence. she's been through all of the wars, watched her homeland burned before coming to middle earth, etc. so the tone they're trying to set is "she is her wise self LOTR because of what happens here", whereas by the lore in the 2nd age she's already been formed to what she is more or less.

in any case as i said before she doesnt have a history of fighting really, she has one case of self defense when feanor invaded, and another where she showed up to a battlefield and used magic. there's a bevy of documented history of her, none of it including a sword. while im not mad i'd have preferred she used a bow, the archers of Lothlorien are renowned as is their style of bow (one was given to Legolas as a great gift by her).

my main gripe is the removal of her husband, Celeborn, whom she's married to during this time, well before the show's events. and who appears in LOTR. seems like they'll introduce him later, her daughter later marries Elrond.

BOOM

Agreed on all points. Is she a bad-ass level 99 Amazonian-elf ? No, haha. They definitely took liberties with her character, however most of it works, or at least isn’t too much of a stretch. Was she a bad-ass commander of the northern armies ? No haha but Eregion is in the North and Galadriel was a commander there. I’m actually enjoying the shit out of the show, but there are some things they are completely changing. In the show she’s single & visited Numenor. However in the lore by this point she’s married, with a daughter & definitely never visited Numenor. It doesn’t ruin it for me literally at all but they did change some stuff

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YUP, agreed. and personally i like her visiting Numenor because its a chance to see it on screen. just odd that they had to give her 2 love interests, Elrond pining for her (which i actually like, makes sense that he married her daughter in a weird way) and Halbrand (which makes no sense). next she'll be in a love square with Isildur and still marry Celeborn lol.

i cant find when mithril was discovered and i'd assumed it was before this time, but LOVE that they made that a plotline. hopefully they leave the arkenstone out and to be found in the 3rd age at its cannon time.