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Dec 1 2024 07:48am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 1 2024 06:07am)
Over-exaggerated and exploited as a trojan horse for their marxist agenda - but this nonetheless doesn't mean that man-made global warming itself is a hoax. Denying the obvious only helps the other side; outright climate change denial has to go away. It's asinine for the right to steer the debate toward a question on which the facts are against them. It's much wiser to steer the debate toward workable and acceptable solutions - how to balance mitigation with adaptation, which technological solutions to expedite, how to find mitigation approaches which don't kill wealth and/or freedom, etc. pp.




Exactly why I chose the term, over-exaggerated. :)

Yes we are coming out of the little ice age.
Is it something humanity or cow farts are causing. I doubt it.

Are we abusing the planet? Of course.
There have been many keystone-species die-offs, before we came along.
And there will many more to follow.

I don't think the planet even notices us, to be honest.

Here's some pics...















And... we're only up to 8.2 billion, world population as of 2024.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 1 2024 03:07am)
Over-exaggerated and exploited as a trojan horse for their marxist agenda - but this nonetheless doesn't mean that man-made global warming itself is a hoax. Denying the obvious only helps the other side; outright climate change denial has to go away. It's asinine for the right to steer the debate toward a question on which the facts are against them. It's much wiser to steer the debate toward workable and acceptable solutions - how to balance mitigation with adaptation, which technological solutions to expedite, how to find mitigation approaches which don't kill wealth and/or freedom, etc. pp.


Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Dec 1 2024 04:27am)
i will call it a hoax until the debate returns to a logical level

none of the apocalyptic forecasts of the last 30 years have happened, zero

during the lockdowns i read one of the climate reports and unfortunately the reasonable and serious people are a clear minority


It's a dirty old grift, running for multiple decades now

Global warming is an alarmist hoax. CO2 levels are rising, yes, this is easily verifiable by any individual by purchasing a bench top FTIR which can be pretty cheap now. But the effects of an increase of this trace component of the atmosphere has never honestly been looked at. Its more likely that increasing CO2 is a good thing due to it being a key component in plant growth.

/e there is zero scientific evidence of anthropogenic global warming or climate change. The only fact is that CO2, a trace component currently around 400 ppm, is rising

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Quote (El1te @ Dec 1 2024 06:13pm)
It's a dirty old grift, running for multiple decades now

Global warming is an alarmist hoax. CO2 levels are rising, yes, this is easily verifiable by any individual by purchasing a bench top FTIR which can be pretty cheap now. But the effects of an increase of this trace component of the atmosphere has never honestly been looked at. Its more likely that increasing CO2 is a good thing due to it being a key component in plant growth.

/e there is zero scientific evidence of anthropogenic global warming or climate change. The only fact is that CO2, a trace component currently around 400 ppm, is rising


It's a bit complicated. Higher amounts of CO2 result in more growth if there is an area for plants to grow. Cutting trees everywhere doesn't help. Biggest CO2 plant consumers are Russian Taiga and the Amazonas forests, also known as the lungs of earth. Higher amounts of C02 are absorbed by the oceans first. They become more acid. It takes a lot of time to saturate them enough, so the surface atmospheric CO2 isn't absorbed as well anymore. The last stage is the sudden spike of extreme weather phenomena before a proper global warming kicks in but then it would be irreversible (you can't catch all of the CO2 at once, you can bind it in living beings or photosynthesis process).
The other problematic bit is that to this day ice ages aren't explained. We know what happens but we don't know why. We are living in an interglacial right now ( timeframe between two ice ages). It's time to get colder again btw. Earth has never left the ice age (glacial) after the first time both poles with ice caps were formed (north and south pole). In-between the ice ages, ice coverage just retreats.
Most likely scenario of uncontrolled global warming might be ice ages in North America and Europe with extreme hot weather elsewhere. The reason being weakening of Gulf Stream and other water currents which keep Northern Europe warmer than it should be according to its position.

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Dec 3 2024 05:37am
Kash Patel nominated for FBI Director.

Kash is a MAGA weirdo who creates childrens books that worship Trump, and fully participated in the coup attempt in 2020. I hope the Senate confirms him. Voters deserve this.
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ill post it in the Kamala thread too, for giggles.
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Dec 3 2024 05:50am
Quote (ferdia @ Dec 3 2024 07:40am)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2bvdZWRK1k

ill post it in the Kamala thread too, for giggles.


Worth watching, pretty funny.
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Dec 3 2024 06:11am
https://x.com/Timodc/status/1863620081873244259

Kash Patel's deep state list.

I would be surprised if he gets confirmed but I hope he does. Voters deserve to get this... good and hard.
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Dec 3 2024 06:17am
https://x.com/TomDreisbach/status/1863375733793386744

Dinesh is issuing an apology for his film because someone in it held him accountable for the claims. Lol.

In the court of public opinion, charlatans like Dinesh and Trump thrive. In the court of law, they don't do so well.

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According to the model of the five stages of grief, or the Kübler-Ross model, those experiencing sudden grief following an abrupt realization (shock) go through five emotions: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance.



Still in the denial stage I see. ^^
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