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Apr 3 2020 07:00am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 3 2020 08:58am)
You're being silly if you seriously think that people should stop supporting Trump because of one dubious decision. And just to reiterate this: I am not a fan of Kushner at all, and dont like seeing him entrusted with a major role on the coronavirus response.


One dubious decision.

Lol.

Battered housewives, always making excuses.

By now incompetance is becoming malicious, and your head is still up your ass lol.

This is what i mean by inability to be rational. One dubious decision.

Hah.

I'm glad I'm into dark humor, now that we have a president who makes political satire obsolete.

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Quote (Skinned @ Apr 3 2020 08:48am)
He told the governor he was wrong and that he knew better. You will rationalize anything. You're unique here as a user on JSP because i have to read what you say because you're smart but you are so intellectually compromised on Trump for some reason you just cannot be rational when it comes to him.

One month ago they were saying it is a hoax.
Today they did not minimize and take no responsibility.

If that isn't enough to make you reconsider your support...

...battered housewife.


Downplaying the seriousness of a threat is not exclusively a trump or even conservative thing (though most of them are conservative due to a distrust of science). People in power both in politics and business try to downplay what's going on because its bad for business, bad for their record and no one wants this pandemic unfolding on their watch because its easy to criticize their many failures in how they handle it. Trudeau didn't do a good job up here initially but its getting better.
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Quote (duffman316 @ Apr 3 2020 09:07am)
Downplaying the seriousness of a threat is not exclusively a trump or even conservative thing (though most of them are conservative due to a distrust of science). People in power both in politics and business try to downplay what's going on because its bad for business, bad for their record and no one wants this pandemic unfolding on their watch because its easy to criticize their many failures in how they handle it. Trudeau didn't do a good job up here initially but its getting better.


There is something to be said about attempts made in good faith.

A GOP governor just said yesterday "we are just learning that people can carry it with no symptoms". That is a lie though. Everyone knows. He is being deceitful to justify his actions.
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Quote (duffman316 @ Apr 3 2020 08:42am)
Your ability to do research on a topic on which people are criticizing the trump admin was sadly predictable. Though i do find it surprising you see anything at all trump could be criticized for, what do you think he should have done or not done?


Lol you're criticizing me for doing research instead of basing my opinion on a you tube video clip like you did?

In hindsight he could have acted quicker with invoking emergency production & lock downs but it's easy to criticize for that after the fact. Most other countries had a pretty delayed response similar to the US, yet something tells me Macron in France isn't being talked about ad nauseam as the reason people are dying.
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Lol you're criticizing me for doing research instead of basing my opinion on a you tube video clip like you did?

In hindsight he could have acted quicker with invoking emergency production & lock downs but it's easy to criticize for that after the fact. Most other countries had a pretty delayed response similar to the US, yet something tells me Macron in France isn't being talked about ad nauseam as the reason people are dying.


Haven't seen any youtube clips on this. Im criticizing you for the thoroughness with which do you research, did you really just look at one link to get an understanding of what happened in that story? That's the impression i get from the conclusion you came away with anyway.

I don't think Macron is doing anything headline worthy like putting his idiot son in law in a leading position in managing your countries response to the coronavirus.
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You're being silly if you seriously think that people should stop supporting Trump because of one dubious decision. And just to reiterate this: I am not a fan of Kushner at all, and dont like seeing him entrusted with a major role on the coronavirus response.


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of course it is. media only can profit by pushing panic, chaos and sewing discord into society. saying that most Americans are reacting similarly in response to CV-19 is bad for the media’s “business model”
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That's what skinned's argument boiled down to: "this decision is so bad that any rational person must stop supporting him because of it. if this wasnt enough to end your support for him, you're past it."
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One dubious decision.

Lol.

Battered housewives, always making excuses.

By now incompetance is becoming malicious, and your head is still up your ass lol.

This is what i mean by inability to be rational. One dubious decision.

Hah.

I'm glad I'm into dark humor, now that we have a president who makes political satire obsolete.


tbh all of trumps moves up to now have been largely in a politically polarized binary. this is the first issue in his president he's dealt with where there's a large number of people upset with his actions, compared to the typical 50%ish. it's also the first time in his presidency where we can see mistakes play out in real time. tax cuts, immigration policy, chinese trade policy, deregulation, etc. they all have a time release distance between action and good and bad consequences.

that said i disagree with black, not only does this action show that he wasnt ready for the big stage, it shows that the big stage can come at any time. and having a potus whos not experienced enough to fix this shit quickly is too large of a liability to support him. voting for trump in 2020 is a gamble that no pandemic, refugee crisis, or international military engagement happens in the next 4 years. and i dont put my chip on one number in roulette.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 3 2020 10:08am)
That's what skinned's argument boiled down to: "this decision is so bad that any rational person must stop supporting him because of it. if this wasnt enough to end your support for him, you're past it."


I'm criticizing you personally for your inability to recognize a clear pattern of behavior. Your blinders are so narrow you can't see past his current bad behavior and you autoexcuse.exe every time.

Sad!

You can't say what my argument boils down to because you will believe the same thing on Wednesday as you do Monday no matter what happens Tuesday.

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