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Nov 6 2020 01:12pm
Don’t expect a call soon on Georgia. It's tight, and the secretary of state said there would be a recount. This one might not be called until the results are certified. - Nath Cohn (1m ago)
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Nov 6 2020 01:12pm
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Don’t expect a call soon on Georgia. It's tight, and the secretary of state said there would be a recount. This one might not be called until the results are certified. - Nath Cohn (1m ago)


Almost certain to have a recount, but unlikely to flip the result.
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Nov 6 2020 01:13pm
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Kinda racist to make fun of him because he come from a Muslim country.


His entire presence is based on hating Americans and liberty and life in general. A deranged obsession.
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Nov 6 2020 01:14pm
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I bet he's a bigger fan of the 11th


in the ultimate mockery of the holiday of "das juden" fender celebrates a perverted wink at Hanukah, receiving a gift each night from the day of the invasion of Poland to the humbling of America.
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Nov 6 2020 01:15pm
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His entire presence is based on hating Americans and liberty and life in general. A deranged obsession.


He's probably envious. His whole country got overrun and now the property of another group of people. Hatred won't help the situation tho. Maybe show him the way?
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Nov 6 2020 01:15pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 6 Nov 2020 14:11)
The tipping point state in this election will probably be neither Pennsylvania nor Georgia, it will be Wisconsin or Arizona with a Biden winning margin of 0.6% or so. Even if he sweeps the uncalled states and ends up with a 306-232 edge in the EC, his mandate from the presidential election will not be any bigger than Trump's was in 2016. On top of that, Trump's party overperformed in the senate and house and won a trifecta back in 2016, while Democrats underperformed in both chambers this year. Voters will most definitely deny them the trifecta they had been longing for.





I dont worry about that too much. Trump was underperforming the GOP senate candidates in Georgia, Biden only beat him by 0.05% or so. In both Senate elections, the Republican candidates received more votes than the Democrats. Historically, Democrats have always done horribly in Georgia runoffs. The Dem coalition in the state contains more low propensity voters. And with control of the Senate, and thus a trifecta, on the table, Republicans will have a much easier time motivating their base to show up on a January night for this election than Democrats. Particularly since ousting Trump was far and away the primary motivation of a lot Dem voters; with him gone, their energy will drop off badly.


By the way: even with a 50:50 Senate, Democrats would not be able to get their power grabs through. Go nuclear, abolish the filibuster, add states - and do all of that with zero room for defections and relying on VP Harris to break the tie? Not gonna happen. Particularly not after an election where they underperformed despite throwing unprecedented amounts of money at the races, in an environment where the cards were stacked in their favor; and with Biden limping over the finish line by what will end up a less than 1% winning margin in the tipping point state
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do you think they care about all this? the goal was to 'beat trump' at all costs and if that ends up happening they won't let optics hold them back from their agenda. (D)s do not step 'out of line' unless they have room to.

they passed the free affordable universal healthcare act in the middle of the night during a holiday. they don't care
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Nov 6 2020 01:16pm
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Almost certain to have a recount, but unlikely to flip the result.


I think Republicans might try to tie up the recount in court and delay it until after the EC convenes, so that the Georgia presidential contest in 2020 will go down as "unresolved" in the history books. It's mostly about saving face for them at this point. (Except for Trump himself, who will probably leave office with absolutely no dignity left...)
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Nov 6 2020 01:19pm
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I think Republicans might try to tie up the recount in court and delay it until after the EC convenes, so that the Georgia presidential contest in 2020 will go down as "unresolved" in the history books. It's mostly about saving face for them at this point. (Except for Trump himself, who will probably leave office with absolutely no dignity left...)



He never had any dignity to begin with
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Nov 6 2020 01:20pm
Quote (excellence @ Nov 6 2020 02:15pm)
do you think they care about all this? the goal was to 'beat trump' at all costs and if that ends up happening they won't let optics hold them back from their agenda. (D)s do not step 'out of line' unless they have room to.

they passed the free affordable universal healthcare act in the middle of the night during a holiday. they don't care


rofl, let us not talk about doing anything sketchy in the middle of the night. The democrats had a lengthy discussion with the GOP and incorporated viable input into the ACA. You are thinking about how the GOP tried to repeal the ACA and strip healthcare away from a ton of people in the middle of the night and failed.
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Quote (excellence @ 6 Nov 2020 20:15)
do you think they care about all this? the goal was to 'beat trump' at all costs and if that ends up happening they won't let optics hold them back from their agenda. (D)s do not step 'out of line' unless they have room to.

they passed the free affordable universal healthcare act in the middle of the night during a holiday. they don't care


People like Joe Manchin, Jon Tester, Kyrsten Sinema, Mark Kelly or Sherrod Brown have to keep their reelection prospects/future political career alive. They're from states which lean to the right of the nation, and would be toast if they went along with such a blatant power grab. I also dont think that Biden himself would be willing to go nuclear and stack the courts with a 50:50 Senate.

Keep in mind that Democrats had a big mandate when they passed Obamacare - they held a supermajority in the Senate and had won the previous two election cycles by huge margins.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 6 2020 01:21pm
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