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What are you talking about? The Left and Middle has been trying to offer choice by having quality public schools open to everybody with the choice of magnet schools as well. I could have sent my daughter to four different schools and more if you factor in the lower-than-par charter schools "operating" in my adjacent neighborhoods. I know the situation is elsewhere across my state, which has a pretty progressive Republican governor. I know not all schools are doing great, for example my immediate school isn't good, which is why I elected to use a magnet school. However, the reason my neighborhood school isn't doing well is because due to NCLB it has had its funding cut for ten consecutive years and the staff is changed every 4 years so it is being systemically held back by poor legislation signed into law by Mr. Bush. Given that it is renter heavy district and the systemic discrimination in education against renters when school districts are funded by property taxes, does my neighborhood school really stand a chance? That money is being redistributed to more "diverse" schools (actually has a fair amount of white students) from my neighborhood school, which is 95+% black, 99%+ free-lunches, which in case you were wondering the relevance of that, means being in poverty, which is linked to mental illness, poorer physical health, less access to education (case in point), unequal treatment in the criminal justice system, and you even pay more for things like water (through utilities and minimum use fees) and milk (raised prices due to being in a food desert), again, all systemic barriers.
It can't possibly be news to you that many Democrats oppose school choice.
Its also not news that its mostly the Republicans and Libertarians advocating for school choice and localized decision making rather than top-down federal intervention.
Various schemes and reforms from vouchers to tax credits have been proposed.
A hint of opening up public schools to more competition from private schools and charter schools makes many Dems recoil in horror.
The mayor of NYC has been a staunch opponent and was making national headlines.
I can come up with more examples if you would like.
NCLB was passed by overwhelming majorities from both parties in both the house and senate.
Of course nowadays its hated by most of everyone.
Bernie Sanders voted FOR it originally before voting against the final bill. (the guy in my ava voted against both times, of course)
I agree that its seriously flawed.
To Bernie's credit he previously called for ending mandatory public schooling and he personally said it crushed their spirits... Unfortunately he doubles down on public schooling today.
We have extreme failure of the public school system, particularly in inner cities, and of many other government aspects that you identify. But all too common the reaction to government failure is to throw more money at the problem and continue with the same failed government programs.
That doesn't fix systematic failure, it entrenches it.
I think if you try really hard you can remember i'm the guy who isn't happy with all of that government failure/injustice in education, the economy, and the CJ system. Or even the zoning laws that restrict how close shops can be to residential areas for that matter..
The walmart supercenters that were popping up everywhere that the left abhors have served millions nicely as an available very-low-cost access site to a variety of foods/drinks and other goods, serving poor people across the country.
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I've never even heard you discuss any of these things facing many Americans in any detail, any nuance, or with any compassion.
Then you've not been paying attention and/or are trolling.
Pick up to 2.
This post was edited by cambovenzi on Nov 20 2015 01:02pm