Quote (bogie160 @ Sep 17 2022 09:45am)

Too early to tell, Amazon is obviously heavily invested in its success, given the price-tag, and they've delayed some of their other product offerings (e.g. Wheel of Time) in an effort to concentrate eyeballs on Rings of Power. They're banking on casual fans taking over and becoming regular watchers, but it's hard to do that without good writing, and the writers in all of these "made of TV" fantasy epics are terrible (see : GOT season 7-8).

The challenge is that they've already squandered any goodwill from fans of the underlying work. Galadriel's a very important character. She's one of the most powerful beings in the actual story. There's no need to turn her into a warring elf princess, aside from the fact that the writers are so unoriginal that they can't imagine a powerful female character that isn't climbing mountains or swinging a sword. You can do the same sort of analysis with Elrond. There's a broader trend among recent adaptions that fundamentally misunderstand the world in Tolkien's work (i.e. Anglo-Saxon), and try to turn it into something it's not. I have no idea how the Hobbit played at the box office, but I watched the first and was so thoroughly disgusted that I swore off the rest.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Sep 17 2022 09:10am)

Oh so you're just repeating chode talking points.

Galadriel fought in wars before LOTR. Her character being a warring elf princess is just an accurate portrayal of her younger self. Sorry that Tolkien wrote strong women. She was respected because she was wise, and she was wise because she had seen some shit. The wise heroes of old actively fought in all the major conflicts of their ages.

The hobit was massively popular as well. Made like 3 billion worldwide. Now you're saying this will be a flop because conservatives got mad that black people exist.

Quote (Landmine @ Sep 17 2022 10:13am)

So far I’ve liked all the episodes.

Quote (SBD @ 16 Sep 2022 11:40)

Jesus Christ, I must be one of the few people who just watch movies and then decide if they were any good or not based on acting and if the movie was interesting enough or entertaining.

Its like Lord of the Rings of the new Game of Thrones i dont give a shit about black elves or females getting screen time. If its good enough to be entertaining its good enough.

Quote (excellence @ Sep 17 2022 10:58am)

nah i think most people do this. im not too fussed with the new GoT because they rushed the 'content' in the original and that soured the last couple seasons.
the loudmouth internet gets the most attention though. squeaky wheel and all that

for instance the hobbit film trilogy deviated way too far from the book at points. idc about the love elf-dwarf random plot arc that was fine, but they really didn't do the battle of 5 armies justice (including thorin's epic entrance from the book) so that was a disappointment
yes LOTR film trilogy did deviate from the book too, but they kept enough in and the battles did do the book events justice (imo)

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Sep 17 2022 11:10am)

Oh so you're just repeating chode talking points.

Galadriel fought in wars before LOTR. Her character being a warring elf princess is just an accurate portrayal of her younger self. Sorry that Tolkien wrote strong women. She was respected because she was wise, and she was wise because she had seen some shit. The wise heroes of old actively fought in all the major conflicts of their ages.

The hobit was massively popular as well. Made like 3 billion worldwide. Now you're saying this will be a flop because conservatives got mad that black people exist.

Quote (bogie160 @ Sep 17 2022 12:48pm)

That's a great story, but none of it's true. Galadriel doesn't take an active part in the war over the Silmarils in the first age, and while she's critical to the second age, she's not fighting there either. Galadriel is respected because she's one of the oldest remaining Noldor, old enough to have lived in Aman, and comes from royal stock. In Tolkien's world, that as good as being a demi-god. It's a recurring theme in Tolkien's writing. Aragorn is who he is because he's someone in whom the blood of the Numenoreans runs pure. Faramir and Denethor are greater than "lesser" men because they come from a noble lineage almost, but not quite, as good. In any case, you can be a wise, respected, powerful character without bashing people's heads in. Melian was arguable the second most powerful being in Middle Earth during the first age, and yet she never took part in a single battle. That's ok. Galadriel is a ruler, why on earth would she need to wield a sword or charge into battle? Toxic masculinity is killing you.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Sep 17 2022 01:06pm)

Except she specifically fight Feanor during the war of the silmarils and actively fought to defend alqualonde.

You are just wrong because you're repeating cherry picked right wing talking points.

I'm not a LOTR nerd but I listen to enough lore channels at work to know you're wrong about Galadriel.