I dont disagree. I just wanted to point out that the fact that the European press is almost uniformly against Trump doesnt have to exclusively be on Trump either.

Bush sr. was pretty well-received by our press, that's true. But he was also the most "posh" and foreign-policy-centered Republican president ever.
When it comes to Reagan, at least the press here in Germany hated the guy. Thought he was a religious nutjob and/or an imbecile.




Oh boy, the look on Trump's face and on the face of Macron's mother wife.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 26 2019 07:07am

Plenty of countries in the EU look favourably on Reagan due to his efforts in taking down the iron curtain. He did destabilize the USSR quite a bit (though they were very good at that themselves too!)

Sure, in retrospect, he's rated more favorably. But during his presidency, particularly at its beginning, it was a very different story.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 26 2019 11:18am

We can't really compare Trump to Reagan though. At most, he is just soft break from hard left policies.

Being only 40-60 years removed from authoritarian risings across Europe it's easy to see how this kind of rampant populism might be scary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_United_States_presidential_election

525-13 electoral votes. dude just fucking destroyed.



chris.... purge "we can't compare" from your vocabulary, it makes you sound unintelligent.

you CAN compare Reagan to Trump, or even Trump to Obama. comparisons of two things that are not alike are just as valid as two carbon copies of each other.

in terms of populist rise Trump and Reagan are very comparable, Trump even stole some plays directly from Reagans playbook.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Aug 26 2019 11:22am

I think there are many similarities, but also quite some big differences between Trump and Reagan:

- Reagan represented the rise of the 'religious right', while Trump's rise was fueled by a more secular right, and the focus of his agenda was also more secular.
- Reagan had a hands-off approach to governing, leaving most of the day to day work to his cabinet. Trump is often times undermining the work of his cabinet, everything in his administration always revolves around him.
- Reagan won reelection and therefore was able to "finish" his mission. Whether Trump will get the same opportunity remains to be seen. If we looked at Reagan's record at the similar point during his presidency, 2.5 years in, it would not look much better than Trump's. his approval rating stood at just 42.6%, he had just lost the House while expanding the majority in the Senate at the previous midterms, and things didnt look great.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo (scroll down a bit to see Reagan's numbers)

You can compare anything you want, but that doesn't mean you are going to get anything worthwhile out of those comparisons.

this type of logic is like saying you don't "get anything" out of negative numbers.

comparisons of how things are alike are just as valid as comparisons of how things are different. In the case of Trump-Reagan both comparisons are interesting. and both have a bevy of results.

in any case my point was "you can't compare those things" is an ignorant phrase, as it presupposes you can't compare differences, and can only compare similarities. it's a silly phrase people use to sound like they're saying something when in reality it's just filler trash.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Aug 26 2019 11:41am

Thanks for telling me your weakness.

when held up to my actual weaknesses, there is no comparison.