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Jan 20 2021 12:34pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Jan 20 2021 01:27pm)
You react as an angry, immature child to valid points made against your unintelligent support of a hyper-authoritarian agenda.

You are parroting the MSM evil narrative of the week. Censor dissenters for wrongthink.
Pretend fox and OANN are just lies and should be censored, but integrity-free CNN and other networks that have lied us into wars and back the establishment regime have sufficient standards..

I know that I am much more intelligent and informed than you. Declaring otherwise is not an argument or appropriate response.
You are a basic bitch with level one talking points and think you are better than people who oppose your spoon-fed dreams of censorship.


whos getting censored?
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Jan 20 2021 12:37pm
Where are today's executive orders !?
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Jan 20 2021 12:39pm
Hahahahaha, what a great season finale

https://nypost.com/2021/01/20/joe-exotic-with-limo-waiting-fails-to-get-trump-pardon/

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Joe Exotic, with limo waiting outside prison, fails to get Trump pardon

Tiger King” star Joe Exotic failed to win a pardon from President Donald Trump — even though the jailbird’s legal team was so “confident” in one, they had a limo ready to whisk him away.

His team had also brought professionals for hair, makeup and wardrobe in the event of his release — and pre-recorded a thank-you video for Trump.

“We have it queued up and ready to go,” Love told Metro. “As soon as we get the word, we’re going to execute that video to the White House and thank them.”


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Jan 20 2021 12:45pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 20 2021 01:34pm)
isnt it silly to on one hand claim the MSM just backs up whatever leftists think and then on the other hand claim anyone who thinks like a leftist is spoonfed by the MSM?

the MSM is leftist bias confirming, but that doesnt mean that anyone with those biases got them directly from MSM, its confirming, not creating biases.


A bulk of the MSM has a strong establishment-left bias.
This certainly does create biases as people consume their narrative/propaganda.

I am not saying the MSM backs up whatever leftists think.

I'm certainly not gullible enough to believe he independently came up with the idea to censor fox, OANN and other dissenting voices and to 'deprogram' trump supporters without hearing that narrative that was heavily pushed in the MSM this week. Maybe you are, idk.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Jan 20 2021 12:46pm
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Jan 20 2021 12:49pm
Where that censorious simpleton came up with the idea isn't the issue.
The issue is that it is stupid and evil and he doesn't have the maturity or integrity to defend it on merit and claims anyone who disagrees is the idiot.
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Jan 20 2021 12:56pm
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Fucking glorious. Although I fail to see how rich rappers get the okay and not this guy. I guess Ol' Joe didnt do enough flintstones popsicle sucking during the campaign. Or maybe the ex president is just a big fan of rap.
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Jan 20 2021 01:00pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Jan 20 2021 12:45pm)
A bulk of the MSM has a strong establishment-left bias.
This certainly does create biases as people consume their narrative/propaganda.

I am not saying the MSM backs up whatever leftists think.

I'm certainly not gullible enough to believe he independently came up with the idea to censor fox, OANN and other dissenting voices and to 'deprogram' trump supporters without hearing that narrative that was heavily pushed in the MSM this week. Maybe you are, idk.


leftists can learn from other leftists. whether in person or online, MSM does not need to be involved at all.

why we get a constant flow of allegations that every leftist is spoonfed all of their ideas by MSM, rather than the obverse has always confused me.

alleging that someone is just an MSM puppet give the MSM too much agency. they're just mirroring whatever the consensus is to make money, people want bias confirming news by-and-large. the overarching theme that the MSM is about control, rather than money, for their main motivation is idiotic to me.

if you're of the mind that the MSM itself is a puppet of deepstate controlling oligarchies, ok, but the allegation to leftists doesnt convey this at all.
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Jan 20 2021 01:11pm
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leftists can learn from other leftists. whether in person or online, MSM does not need to be involved at all.

Yes I agree.

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why we get a constant flow of allegations that every leftist is spoonfed all of their ideas by MSM, rather than the obverse has always confused me.

Most people on the left do get their information largely from the MSM. I don't think that is a controversial statement.
The MSM has played a large role in crafting this political atmosphere of TDS leftists.

He is directly parroting the MSM narrative of the week.
I am saying it applies to him specifically and quite obviously.

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alleging that someone is just an MSM puppet give the MSM too much agency. they're just mirroring whatever the consensus is to make money, people want bias confirming news by-and-large. the overarching theme that the MSM is about control, rather than money, for their main motivation is idiotic to me.

if you're of the mind that the MSM itself is a puppet of deepstate controlling oligarchies, ok, but the allegation to leftists doesnt convey this at all.


This is grossly underestimating and misunderstanding the MSM. They have close ties to the CIA and other government agencies and regularly craft narratives and talking points for their audience to repeat.
They are literal propagandists.
Sure money also plays a role, and getting their audience riled up and thinking dissent is evil can be profitable for them. But to think their channels are just repeating popular grassroots narratives that regular leftists already came up with is way off the mark.

I have already clarified that I am not saying all leftists are just parroting MSM talking points.
As I was saying, MSM bias is strongly for the establishment-left, (with an encroaching socialist/progressive bent in recent years as they integrate with the democratic party.)

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Jan 20 2021 01:25pm
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Jan 20 2021 04:22pm
President Biden speaking from the Oval Office with a mask on.

It's an epically low bar that he has to meet for me, to be honest. Just do what any mentally healthy person would do as president and he's vastly better than Trump.
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Jan 20 2021 04:55pm
Looking forward to the first press conference with the new Press Secretary, which will happen tonight. After 4 years of madness I just want some normalcy.
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