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Aug 19 2019 08:34am
Quote (ChrisKz @ Aug 19 2019 07:14am)
Nah, we shouldn't even call it traditional marriage. It should be just marriage, and people can sort it out themselves. The problem is that humans are meant to be monogamous and faithful to their mates, but when they view flings as outside of 'mating' and their 'household' they slip, often.

There is also the instinct to take care of yourself and your offspring, so if either the man or woman in the marriage isn't carrying their own weight or not taking care of their kids, the other partner is likely to look for a better mate.

This is just being human. Trying to look at it any other way and you start going into the subjective area. People would argue that emotions are subjective, but in my opinion they are something you feel, and discrediting it as something subjective is stupid. Imo emotions are objective, and they are part of the whole.


We aren't meant for it. We adopt it and adopted it for a variety of social and personal reasons. When we no longer had such a desperate environment for survival of the species we were allowed the luxury of examining or spirits and individualism which can and often does lead to monogamy being a benefit for many people as individuals
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Aug 19 2019 08:45am
Quote (Beowulf @ 19 Aug 2019 10:34)
We aren't meant for it. We adopt it and adopted it for a variety of social and personal reasons. When we no longer had such a desperate environment for survival of the species we were allowed the luxury of examining or spirits and individualism which can and often does lead to monogamy being a benefit for many people as individuals


What do you mean we aren't meant for it? Statistically and emotionally (observed through statistics), monogamous couples are the happiest and most successful in the modern, highly intellectual societies.

The parts where this isn't practiced are in circles or in unhealthy power trades.
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Aug 19 2019 08:56am
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People feel that emotions are up for subjective interpretation because not everybody feel sthe same way in every situation. I know this sort of thing is probably beyond your ability to comprehend.


>emotions aren't influenced by personal feelings
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What do you mean we aren't meant for it? Statistically and emotionally (observed through statistics), monogamous couples are the happiest and most successful in the modern, highly intellectual societies.

The parts where this isn't practiced are in circles or in unhealthy power trades.


We live in luxury as a species currently. We are gifted with opportunity to explore ourselves outside of just survival of the species and fittest

If that were to be taken away from us or by us we would reenter pure survival mode which is a much less romantic and kind
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We live in luxury as a species currently. We are gifted with opportunity to explore ourselves outside of just survival of the species and fittest

If that were to be taken away from us or by us we would reenter pure survival mode which is a much less romantic and kind


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my type of people
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Well... if they arent vegans (lol), they can surive a few weeks in the woods without starving.
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What do you mean we aren't meant for it? Statistically and emotionally (observed through statistics), monogamous couples are the happiest and most successful in the modern, highly intellectual societies.

The parts where this isn't practiced are in circles or in unhealthy power trades.


Marriages that end in divorce last on average seven years, and about 50% of marriages in the United States fail. 41% of all first marriages fail. 60 percent of second marriages end in divorce. 73 percent of all third marriages end in divorce.

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Dat conditioning. Well-regulated militia right there.


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U.S. DIVORCE RATE BY OCCUPATION
Occupation Divorce Rate
Dancers 43
Bartenders 38.4
Massage Therapists 38.2
Gaming Cage Workers 34.6
Gaming Service Workers 31.3
Food and Tobacco Machine Operators 29.7
Telephone Operators 29.3
Textile Machine Operators 29
Nurses 28.9
Home Care Aids 28.7
Entertainers 28.4
Bellhops and Concierges 28.4
Telemarketers 28.1
Waitstaff 27.1
Roofers 26.8
Maids 26.3
Corrections Workers 21.3
Law Enforcement 14.47
Doctors and Surgeons 9.23
Mechanical Engineers 9.22
Medical Scientists 9.11
Other Scientists 8.79
Legislators 8.74
Audiologists 7.77
Dentists 7.75
Farmers 7.63
Podiatrists 6.81
Clergy 5.61
Optomitrists 4.01
Agricultural Engineers 1.78*bonus: Law enforcement and police divorce rate is 14.47, while the rate for corrections workers is 21.3.


Gays are better at marriage, but they're new at it, and are less likely to have children oppressing them.

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SAME-SEX DIVORCE STATISTICS

37. About 1 percent of married same-sex couples get divorced each year, while about 2 percent of married straight couples divorce.
38. According to figures from the UK’s Office of National Statistics, lesbian couples are nearly twice as likely to end a marriage or civil union than gay male couples are.
39. In the United States, the divorce rate is 3.1 per 1000 people that allow same-sex marriage, and 3.9 in states that prohibit it.


No surprise there, everyone knows that Lesbians being a U-haul full of their shit on a second date.

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42. Lack of commitment is the most common reason given by divorcing couples according to a recent national survey. Here are the reasons given and their percentages:
Lack of commitment 73%
Argue too much 56%
Infidelity 55%
Married too young 46%
Unrealistic expectations 45%
Lack of equality in the relationship 44%
Lack of preparation for marriage 41%
Domestic Violence or Abuse 25%
(Respondents often cited more that one reason, therefore the percentages add up to much more than 100 percent)


Christians are bad at marriage compared to other religions lol: And atheists suck at marriage.

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WHAT MAKES PEOPLE MORE OR LESS LIKELY TO DIVORCE?
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Religion and Divorce
47. If a person has strong religious beliefs, the risk of divorce is 14 percent less and having no religious affiliation makes you 14 percent more likely to get divorced.
48. If you’re an evangelical Christian adult who has been married, there’s a 26 percent likelihood that you’ve been divorced—compared to a 28 percent chance for Catholics and a 38 percent chance for non-Christians.
49. According to Dr. Jennifer Glass, one of the strongest factors predicting divorce rates (per 1000 married couples) is the concentration of conservative or evangelical Protestants in that county. The correlation can be seen on this figure: (insert divorce counties image)


There are other funny weird facts, like Conservatives are less likely than Liberals to get divorces, but if you live in a Red State you are more likely to get divorced than a Blue State.

This post was edited by Skinned on Aug 19 2019 11:50am
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There are other funny weird facts, like Conservatives are less likely than Liberals to get divorces, but if you live in a Red State you are more likely to get divorced than a Blue State.


that's really not surprising. in red states, the pressure on couples to marry is higher, so that more couples go along with it despite having reservations or doubts. conservatives then seem more likely to stick with a shitty marriage or work their issues out, while liberals are more inclined to get a divorce.

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