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Aug 15 2019 05:24am
Quote (CarsV @ Aug 14 2019 10:04pm)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7357527/King-defends-abortion-ban-no-rape-incest-exceptions.html

Yeah this guy needs to go. Makes you wonder what else he believes in behind closed doors, if he's willing to proclaim that to the public.


He's one of the few that speaks his mind even when it keeps him in shit most of the time so probably closer to his public words than most politicians.
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Quote (Santara @ 15 Aug 2019 13:05)
If you're inclined to believe that the fetus is a human being endowed with the same rights any other member of our species has, you can't really claim that one conceived in rape or incest has any less a right to not be murdered as anyone else.


if you had the slightest clue about this topic you'd know that human rights begin at birth. also, while i know that religious fanatics like to use the term 'murder' in that context, but that doesn't make it true...

not surprised to see you rationalise that bigot's idiocy though...
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Aug 15 2019 06:39am
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if you had the slightest clue about this topic you'd know that human rights begin at birth. also, while i know that religious fanatics like to use the term 'murder' in that context, but that doesn't make it true...

not surprised to see you rationalise that bigot's idiocy though...


Id think punching a pregnant woman in the gut with micious intent to cause a miscarriage is a bit more than simple assault. I'd try murder charges for such an act.
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Quote (CarsV @ Aug 15 2019 12:04am)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7357527/King-defends-abortion-ban-no-rape-incest-exceptions.html

Yeah this guy needs to go. Makes you wonder what else he believes in behind closed doors, if he's willing to proclaim that to the public.


He said that every person alive today has a rapist for an ancestor
The media filter then reported that he said humanity would be extinct without rape
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Aug 15 2019 07:43am
Quote (duffman316 @ Aug 15 2019 08:39am)
Id think punching a pregnant woman in the gut with micious intent to cause a miscarriage is a bit more than simple assault. I'd try murder charges for such an act.


what if the woman can legally still get an abortion, would you press murder charges then? I have seen scenarios where people are charge double homicide for the killing of a pregnant woman. No idea where the womans pregnancy term lined up with the particular states abortion laws though.
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Quote (joncomgree @ 15 Aug 2019 09:43)
what if the woman can legally still get an abortion, would you press murder charges then? I have seen scenarios where people are charge double homicide for the killing of a pregnant woman. No idea where the womans pregnancy term lined up with the particular states abortion laws though.


yes, i would

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Aug 15 2019 08:29am
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if you had the slightest clue about this topic you'd know that human rights begin at birth. also, while i know that religious fanatics like to use the term 'murder' in that context, but that doesn't make it true...

not surprised to see you rationalise that bigot's idiocy though...


If you had the slightest clue what I was talking about, you would understand that we aren't talking about the way things are, but instead the way they ought to be. Abortion is currently legal. Try to keep up, intellectual cupcake. Killing a human being equates to murder, even in non-religious circles. If one is inclined to consider a fetus a human being (it's not like they're a member of some other species before they're born), defenders of human rights have perfectly legitimate criticisms of the practice of abortion.
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That whole argument is pointless. Because the premise is faulty. The MOST important concern is WHERE you draw the line. Secondary is who draws it.
When that fetus/baby becomes aware of it's own existence... IS the most important concern. Before the fetus/baby is aware, it's just an abortion. AFTER that baby is aware....aborting it, is murder.



/e inb4... but it can't survive on it's own. News flash... babies can't survive on their own till about 3 years old... and even then only very badly.

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