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Aug 12 2019 05:59am
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not even remotely true. apart from the abysmal training, and toxic culture of the american police force, one of the main reasons for the unacceptable amount of deadly police shootings is that thanks to america's gun obsession, every person is a potentially lethal threat to them at any given moment. a main reason why cops are so scared and trigger-happy.


Cops need to be held accountable legally for their actions that violate the law and professionally when they prove to have a lack of strong character and good judgement. Something that has improved over the last few decades especially in the most recent years, although still a ways to go.

Accountability is how they should be handled not squashing rights of citizens

"Give up your rights so cops might not shoot you" is a pathetic and weak response to abuse by authority and as usual you are using victims to push your rabid political views.
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Cops need to be held accountable legally for their actions that violate the law and professionally when they prove to have a lack of strong character and good judgement. Something that has improved over the last few decades especially in the most recent years, although still a ways to go.

Accountability is how they should be handled not squashing rights of citizens

"Give up your rights so cops might not shoot you" is a pathetic and weak response to abuse by authority and as usual you are using victims to push your rabid political views.


why is it that the only thing you can refute is moronic strawmen?

what i'm saying is that the sheer amount of guns in america leads to an increased amount of shootings by police because every citizen is a potentially lethal threat. 'he was reaching' / 'he had a gun' is one of the most common justifications - and it disproportionally happens to poor people. inconvenient facts, i know, but still undeniably true.

funny how this is yet another argument of how guns make you LESS safe, and lead to MORE abuse by authority, and you don't realise it despite actually typing it out yourself. it's incredible how brainwashed you are on this topic, you weren't able to mention ONE aspect where largely unregulated access to guns is actually a net benefit for the population...
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why is it that the only thing you can refute is moronic strawmen?

what i'm saying is that the sheer amount of guns in america leads to an increased amount of shootings by police because every citizen is a potentially lethal threat. 'he was reaching' / 'he had a gun' is one of the most common justifications - and it disproportionally happens to poor people. inconvenient facts, i know, but still undeniably true.

funny how this is yet another argument of how guns make you LESS safe, and lead to MORE abuse by authority, and you don't realise it despite actually typing it out yourself. it's incredible how brainwashed you are on this topic, you weren't able to mention ONE aspect where largely unregulated access to guns is actually a net benefit for the population...


How do you plan to have less guns in a country full of millions of guns to make authority less scared. Confiscation and destruction of the second, a right
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Aug 12 2019 07:51am
# of posts by Fender saying "its the number of guns guys" = 1,000

# of plans to reduce the number of guns = zero
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How do you plan to have less guns in a country full of millions of guns to make authority less scared. Confiscation and destruction of the second, a right


so you finally acknowledge what i stated in that post as true?
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Quote (fender @ Aug 12 2019 07:06am)
so you finally acknowledge what i stated in that post as true?


I've already made it clear. I want power to fear the people

Inb4 I dont care about innocent lives.

How about you just admit that you have no solutions to mass shootings or killings and you want citizens to sacrifice their rights because of your blind hatred for a foreigner's caricature perception of right wingers. You support confiscation

Get in your honesty now then in 10 years when Democrats are openly floating it around you can claim to have been ahead of the curve
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Aug 12 2019 08:21am
Quote (Beowulf @ 12 Aug 2019 16:10)
I've already made it clear. I want power to fear the people

Inb4 I dont care about innocent lives.

How about you just admit that you have no solutions to mass shootings or killings and you want citizens to sacrifice their rights because of your blind hatred for a foreigner's caricature perception of right wingers. You support confiscation

Get in your honesty now then in 10 years when Democrats are openly floating it around you can claim to have been ahead of the curve


why do you always resort to these misrepresentation when i refuted those talking points about half a dozen times for you? i think you DO care about innocent lives, and if you could save them without changing anything about your stance on guns, you would - you just don't care enough to do that. there's a difference.
also, you don't have to be a right winger or nra member to share their idiotic and heavily flawed pro gun 'arguments'. i have not once called you a right winger or nra member. you're brainwashed and irrational on this issue, that doesn't make you a right winger. nuance, boy... try it.

also, no matter how often you suggest it, buyback programs aren't 'confiscation'. i know you have abandoned any reason and logic on this a long time ago, but that does not change the facts.



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Quote (fender @ Aug 12 2019 07:21am)
why do you always resort to these misrepresentation when i refuted those talking points about half a dozen times for you? i think you DO care about innocent lives, and if you could save them without changing anything about your stance on guns, you would - you just don't care enough to do that. there's a difference.
also, you don't have to be a right winger or nra member to share their idiotic and heavily flawed pro gun 'arguments'. i have not once called you a right winger or nra member. you're brainwashed and irrational on this issue, that doesn't make you a right winger. nuance, boy... try it.

also, no matter how often you suggest it, buyback programs aren't 'confiscation'. i know you have abandoned any reason and logic on this a long time ago, but that does not change the facts.


How does that prevent mass shooting and killings

I didnt say you think I'm a right winger I said I think you blindly hate a caricature version of them. I think it's a rage on display here daily that leads you to caring about not much else other than attacking them with words on the internet and throwing your fists in the air screaming about them.

It's a misrepresentation of the US and a large majority of gun owners. It's a misrepresentation of the right as a whole and those that support rights.

You gonna sit here and say you are entirely against confiscation and will be in the future? You know damn well that's what you want to see and most people reading your posts know what you really want. It's why you're weak on specifics but extreme on labeling and using lost lives as weapons. You dont have solutions you have an agenda to control and punish those which have rights and should not suffer or sacrifice those rights for mass murderers or the pressure from citizens or politicians willing to give up their rights and let them be trampled on
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