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Quote (bogie160 @ 10 Aug 2019 23:44)
The same exact thing can be said for the El Paso shooter.

You are finding a reason to excuse one and condemn the other because it suits your political narrative.


Not really. The El Paso shooter uploaded a manifesto to 8chan and told police he deliberately targeted mexicans.

I'm not saying antifascism can't inspire violence. I'm sure it can and does and I won't be the least bit surprised when someone takes an AR-15 to a right-wing rally and starts blowing away AIM members.
I'm simply saying antifascists don't target random civilians. Much as the right wants you to believe this is the case. There is nothing in antifascist rhetoric that inspires this. It's pretty explicitly encouraged in many white supremacist spaces.
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Quote (Beowulf @ 11 Aug 2019 00:28)
Focusing on accuracy in regards to a mostly white domestic terrorist group that mob beats gay minorities in the name of fighting white supremacy


you mention "accuracy" while at the same time implying that antifa targets people for being gay / or minorities? holy mother of hypocrisy.
also, pretty telling that between a white nationalist terrorist killing dozens of people, and an antifa guy throwing a milkshake, you get triggered by the latter as the 'real' threat, the 'real' terrorist.

Quote (majorblood @ 11 Aug 2019 00:30)
wasn't the last shooter a supporter of antifa? whats the point of blaming some political side?


he didn't leave behind anything that points to a political motivation, nor did he target a specific demographic - while the other scumbag targeted latinos and left behind a manifesto illustrating how he was inspired by the president's lies and rhetoric about immigrants.
had the dayton shooter targeted a republican convention, or just rich white people for example, we could certainly talk about left wing terrorism, but having made a facebook post about antifa at some point doesn't mean his killing spree was politically motivated.

i know you guys are desperate for something like that to claim 'it's even, both sides do it', so please don't talk about how the president's divisive rhetoric inspires acts like that - but i guess you'll have to wait a bit longer
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you mention "accuracy" while at the same time implying that antifa targets people for being gay / or minorities? holy mother of hypocrisy.
also, pretty telling that between a white nationalist terrorist killing dozens of people, and an antifa guy throwing a milkshake, you get triggered by the latter as the 'real' threat, the 'real' terrorist.



He wasn't what those that attacked him claimed him to be

he is a helluva lot more gay and asian than he is all the things he was falsely accused of by his attackers and supporters of his attackers
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Quote (TransTankie @ Aug 10 2019 06:50pm)
Not really. The El Paso shooter uploaded a manifesto to 8chan and told police he deliberately targeted mexicans.

I'm not saying antifascism can't inspire violence. I'm sure it can and does and I won't be the least bit surprised when someone takes an AR-15 to a right-wing rally and starts blowing away AIM members.
I'm simply saying antifascists don't target random civilians. Much as the right wants you to believe this is the case. There is nothing in antifascist rhetoric that inspires this. It's pretty explicitly encouraged in many white supremacist spaces.


Obviously they do target random civilians, because someone who fits the definition of "antifascist" just did. It is not sufficient to say "mentally imbalanced individuals are drawn to antifa" and leave it at that. If anything, knowing that the organization is filled with mentally ill recruits is a cause for alarm.

When you tell people that everyone who opposes you is a white supremacist fascist running concentrations in the second iteration of the holocaust, you can't act surprised when some guy thinks its the end of the world and starts blowing people away. Or start bombing government buildings.

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Quote (bogie160 @ 11 Aug 2019 01:09)
Obviously they do target random civilians, because someone who fits the definition of "antifascist" just did. It is not sufficient to say "mentally imbalanced individuals are drawn to antifa" and leave it at that. If anything, knowing that the organization is filled with mentally ill recruits is a cause for alarm.

When you tell people that everyone who opposes you is a white supremacist fascist running concentrations in the second iteration of the holocaust, you can't act surprised when some guy thinks its the end of the world and starts blowing people away. Or start bombing government buildings.


Don't forget to buy a milkshake-proof backpack for your you kid
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When the THREE shooter topics aren't enough and you need to use the picture topic.
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Quote (Beowulf @ 11 Aug 2019 00:59)
He wasn't what those that attacked him claimed him to be

he is a helluva lot more gay and asian than he is all the things he was falsely accused of by his attackers and supporters of his attackers


at no point did i justify the attack on him, there is no excuse. andy ngo might a pathetic hack who tries to make a living by provoking people, using his race and sexuality to provide deniability to fringe groups on the right, but of course that does not warrant assault. no sympathy for the scumbags that did that.

that does, however, not explain how that seems to bother you more than the deadly and rising threat of white nationalist terrorism.

just out of interest, do you think BLM and the dakota access protestors were 'terrorist groups' as well, because they all got their labels the same way: misrepresenting (or outright making up) some incidents of (often provoked) physical altercations to smear the whole group and dismiss their goals.
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Quote (fender @ Aug 10 2019 04:13pm)
at no point did i justify the attack on him, there is no excuse. andy ngo might a pathetic hack who tries to make a living by provoking people, using his race and sexuality to provide deniability to fringe groups on the right, but of course that does not warrant assault. no sympathy for the scumbags that did that.

that does, however, not explain how that seems to bother you more than the deadly and rising threat of white nationalist terrorism.

just out of interest, do you think BLM and the dakota access protestors were 'terrorist groups' as well, because they all got their labels the same way: misrepresenting (or outright making up) some incidents of (often provoked) physical altercations to smear the whole group and dismiss their goals.


Antifa instigates at protests and gets the group they infiltrate mislabeled and harmed

pipeline protests are full of the elderly and women and children, all unarmed and peaceful

Antifa and their escalations and exaggerations get the peaceful harmed and give enforcement an excuse to enforce harshly upon a peaceful people protesting

and natives that are a part of a group that brings harm to our people during peaceful protest should be full of shame
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