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WASHINGTON (AP) — Twelve U.S. National Guard members have been removed from securing President-elect Joe Biden’s inauguration after vetting by the FBI, including two who made extremist statements in posts or texts about the Wednesday event, Pentagon officials said. There were no specific threats to Biden.

Two U.S. officials told The AP that all 12 were found to have ties with right-wing militia groups or posted extremist views online. The officials, a senior intelligence official and an Army official briefed on the matter, did not say which fringe groups the Guard members belonged to or what unit they served in. The officials were not authorized to speak publicly and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity. The officials told the AP they had all been removed because of “security liabilities.”

Gen. Daniel Hokanson, chief of the National Guard confirmed that Guard members had been removed and sent home but he said only two were for inappropriate comments or texts related to the inauguration. The other 10 were for other potential issues that may involve previous criminal activity or activities, but not directly related to the inaugural event.

Their removal from the massive security presence at the nation’s capital comes as U.S. defense officials have been worried about a potential insider attack or other threat from service members following the deadly riot at the U.S. Capitol Jan. 6 by Trump supporters. The FBI has been working to vet all 25,000 National Guard in town. Officials have said that the Pentagon has found no intelligence so far that would indicate an insider threat.

But the FBI has also warned law enforcement officials about the possibility that right-wing fringe groups could pose as members of the National Guard, according to two law enforcement officials familiar with the matter.

Neither Hokanson, nor Pentagon spokesman Jonathan Hoffman would provide details on the comments or texts made by the two Guard members. Hokanson said one was identified by his chain of command and the other was identified through an anonymous tip.

“Much of the information,” Hoffman said, “is unrelated to the events taking place at the Capitol or to the concerns that many people have noted on extremism. These are vetting efforts that identify any questionable behavior in the past or any potential link to questionable behavior, not just related to extremism.”

Hoffman added that officials aren’t asking questions right now of those who were flagged. “We’re, out of an abundance of caution, taking action and immediately removing them from the line of duty at the Capitol and the events taking place.”

“And then we will address them, whether it’s through law enforcement if necessary or through their own chain of command.”

Washington has been on edge since the deadly insurrection at the Capitol, which has prompted extraordinary security measures ahead of Biden’s inauguration. A fire in a homeless camp roughly a mile from the Capitol complex prompted a lockdown Monday during a rehearsal for the inauguration.


If it is true that only 2 national guard members, out of 25,000, were sent home for inappropriate comments, then the threat of right-wing violence is a complete joke.
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Trump was never afraid of his own American troops.
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If it is true that only 2 national guard members, out of 25,000, were sent home for inappropriate comments, then the threat of right-wing violence is a complete joke.


I think it's 12 and it's not inappropriate comments. It's involvement in extremist militia groups AND making threatening comments online. Why this isn't caught in a background check is somewhat concerning...

I have to imagine that this percentage of individuals is roughly on par with radical Islam.
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If it is true that only 2 national guard members, out of 25,000, were sent home for inappropriate comments, then the threat of right-wing violence is a complete joke.


I mean, that's making the assumption we caught them all, which I think is a poor assumption.

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I think it's 12 and it's not inappropriate comments. It's involvement in extremist militia groups AND making threatening comments online. Why this isn't caught in a background check is somewhat concerning...

I have to imagine that this percentage of individuals is roughly on par with radical Islam.


Not being caught in the background check is indeed the part I'm more concerned with, provided we don't end up finding like 98 more.

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I think it's 12 and it's not inappropriate comments. It's involvement in extremist militia groups AND making threatening comments online. Why this isn't caught in a background check is somewhat concerning...

I have to imagine that this percentage of individuals is roughly on par with radical Islam.

lol come on. half the spam posted on here is “extremist”. imagine someone taking some of your or or inky’s or skinned’s posts at face value without any context.

actual extreme views should be curtailed but “i dont like that warmongering swamp demon, i dont want him to send me off to die in some shithole” (which is likely the median ‘extreme’ comment) is hardly extremist

e: 12 out of 25k = 0.00048. sort of rationale that people like stalin and mao used to terrorize large segments of people, and that the industrial military complex used to justify the wars of establishment aggression. we reallie wanna go there again?

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lol come on. half the spam posted on here is “extremist”. imagine someone taking some of your or or inky’s or skinned’s posts at face value without any context.

actual extreme views should be curtailed but “i dont like that warmongering swamp demon, i dont want him to send me off to die in some shithole” (which is likely the median ‘extreme’ comment) is hardly extremist

e: tel:12/2500012/25000[/URL] = 0.00048. sort of rationale that people like stalin and mao used to terrorize large segments of people, and that the industrial military complex used to justify the wars of establishment aggression. we reallie wanna go there again?


I think the only one who would be considered an extremist here is Plasmasnake.
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I think the only one who would be considered an extremist here is Plasmasnake.

lol oh yeah that revolutionary Plasma.

yeah because you’re aware of the dynamics of this subforum. im talking take a random post or text and applying no context to it and use that as the barometer. half the lefties here have used the n-word with reckless abandon. add in all the throwaway comments about jewish people, immigrants, dark-skinned people etc.

biden and the swamp are not winning over the military (or anyone who uses reason over emotion) by having an armed unit that is now approaching half size of the force that stormed Normandy beach to serve as the praetorian guard for a virtual inauguration and then saying they dont trust them

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I think it's 12 and it's not inappropriate comments. It's involvement in extremist militia groups AND making threatening comments online. Why this isn't caught in a background check is somewhat concerning...

I have to imagine that this percentage of individuals is roughly on par with radical Islam.


"Gen. Daniel Hokanson, chief of the National Guard confirmed that Guard members had been removed and sent home but he said only two were for inappropriate comments or texts related to the inauguration. The other 10 were for other potential issues that may involve previous criminal activity or activities, but not directly related to the inaugural event."

It sounds like two members made inappropriate comments, but they weren't about Biden. For a group that almost assuredly went Trump by a large margin, that's pretty stellar.
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lol oh yeah that revolutionary Plasma.

yeah because you’re aware of the dynamics of this subforum. im talking take a random post or text and applying no context to it and use that as the barometer. half the lefties here have used the n-word with reckless abandon. add in all the throwaway comments about jewish people, immigrants, dark-skinned people etc.

biden and the swamp are not winning over the military (or anyone who uses reason over emotion) by having an armed unit that is now approaching half size of the force that stormed Normandy beach to serve as the praetorian guard for a virtual inauguration and then saying they dont trust them


Not gonna lie...if Plasma was in law enforcement, I'd be pretty wary of him. Given how few people they've found, I have to imagine they are looking at some pretty radical shit. They aren't going to remove someone for their duty for shitposting like we do. I'd imagine MOST of the military shit posts and then we'd have no one left.
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Listening to Anthony Blinken's confirmation hearing, and he certainly sounds hawkish on China.
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