Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 2 2020 05:43pm)

as long as a country's testing approach doesnt shift, the tendencies you can read from it should be useful. \

Quote (theCrossbones @ Apr 2 2020 02:47pm)

Not gonna 2x quote all that wall of text.
1. Legum outlined a series of cost-cutting decisions made by the Trump administration in preceding years that had gutted the nation’s infectious disease defense infrastructure. The “pandemic response team” firing claim referred to news accounts from Spring 2018 reporting that White House officials tasked with directing a national response to a pandemic had been ousted.

Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer abruptly departed from his post leading the global health security team on the National Security Council in May 2018 amid a reorganization of the council by then-National Security Advisor John Bolton, and Ziemer’s team was disbanded. Tom Bossert, whom the Washington Post reported “had called for a comprehensive biodefense strategy against pandemics and biological attacks,” had been fired one month prior.

It’s thus true that the Trump administration axed the executive branch team responsible for coordinating a response to a pandemic and did not replace it, eliminating Ziemer’s position and reassigning others, although Bolton was the executive at the top of the National Security Council chain of command at the time.
So it was more than one person.
and all your fact talking was just a cover for "Im a trump cultist"
cool story.. and yes its a hoax, its the flu blah blah cost us weeks of response time.
sorry.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Apr 2 2020 04:55pm)

The virus has been in the US since late January. Expecting more to die in 2 weeks than the previous 2 months kind of goes against the curve we've seen elsewhere.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Apr 2 2020 02:59pm)

1 person was fired. Budget cuts have been made across the board. So all your nonsense is just nonsense. How things are handled in a bureaucratic fashion are reorganized by quite literally ALL administrations, otherwise you have people with political agendas in the administration who work to counter the commands of the Executive, aka the President. Obama did it, Clinton did it. It's standard procedure.

The idea that a general getting fired from a civilian post has led to the spread of a pandemic ignores that the Chinese military locked down an entire province, and still failed miserably to contain the pandemic.

Now, do you have anything rational to add, or just wish to blame Trump because he can't magically prevent the non-isolationist, liberty-loving USofA from having to deal with a virus that literally every other nation in the world also has to deal with?

Quote (Kayeto @ Apr 2 2020 03:07pm)

the motto of the task force has been "Slow the Spread". The spread is going to happen over a longer period of time. Peak rate is estimated to be 4-6 weeks away.

It took about 1 month from the first US corona death until we see the 1,000th. After that, it took 2 days to double from 1k to 2k. Then it took 3 days to double again and hit 4k. Barring a major external factor to change the trajectory, we are still projected to double every 3 days for the next 4-6 weeks.

Quote (theCrossbones @ Apr 2 2020 03:10pm)

I'm not saying he should of prevented it.. So stop acting like I am blaming him for the existence of the virus.. I keep stating his down playing cost us weeks of response time.
The entire team and protocol was removed. Sorry you can't read the news. If Obama went on a date for valentine's you people would of freaked out.. oh wait..
Liberty loving USofA wtf does that mean? lmao
Snake oil!

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Apr 2 2020 06:12pm)

That has not been seen elsewhere, so the prediction model could well be faulty. Also, why are the casualties no longer being tracked? What are the ages, sexes, prior health issues, substance use histories, etc. of the victims?

Add to that that we are only testing those who exhibit severe symptoms, and we have no realistic measure of who has it. It's possible half the population could have it, and we wouldn't know.

The fact of the matter is, enough data does not exist to justify your prediction model.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Apr 2 2020 03:12pm)

That has not been seen elsewhere, so the prediction model could well be faulty. Also, why are the casualties no longer being tracked? What are the ages, sexes, prior health issues, substance use histories, etc. of the victims?

Add to that that we are only testing those who exhibit severe symptoms, and we have no realistic measure of who has it. It's possible half the population could have it, and we wouldn't know.

The fact of the matter is, enough data does not exist to justify your prediction model.



Did you read what I posted? He did not "fire the team". He fired one general, and reassigned his responsibilities. You clearly ARE blaming him for the virus. And "preventing panic" is the standard crisis response.

Turn off Vox, it's rotting your brain.

Quote (Kayeto @ Apr 2 2020 03:19pm)

Diagnosed cases are not related to my previous comment at all, you just threw in some unrelated facts to distract from the point.

The point is, there is no intention of preventing the infection from spreading to the whole population. This is not a situation where we are identifying people, tracing their contacts and isolating the infected. The plan is for the whole population to be exposed to the virus over the next 6 months.

That's the current curve we are on. Deviating it from it would require some major external factors being introduced to change the situation drastically.

Quote (theCrossbones @ Apr 2 2020 03:25pm)

Where did I blame him for the virus? Please prove your case.. And nobody but you is claiming one person to be the entire budget cut decision.
and where did I quote Vox? Fox news boy.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Apr 2 2020 06:28pm)

Thus, I would posit that the only solution is to end the partial martial law that has been imposed, allow it to run it's course, but not stop trying to develop vaccines.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Apr 2 2020 06:28pm)

The nature of the virus equals "lethal cold". We haven't managed to stop the common cold or even slow it down, ever, due to it's inherent nature. This IS a cold.

Quote (Kayeto @ Apr 2 2020 03:40pm)

The fact that people seem to be able to contagious, asymptomatic carriers of corona for at least 2 weeks makes it way off the charts compared to the flu.