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Musk and Vivek named to lead a new department of government efficiency. That's going to be interesting for sure.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna179899
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Quote (Chainsaw47 @ Nov 12 2024 05:05pm)
Musk and Vivek named to lead a new department of government efficiency. That's going to be interesting for sure.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna179899


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Nov 13 2024 08:59am
Trump won the popular vote by less of a percentage than Hillary did in 2016.
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Trump won the popular vote by less of a percentage than Hillary did in 2016.




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This post was edited by Ghot on Nov 13 2024 09:04am
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Yes, we know the election results, but I'm providing some context for people.
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Yes, we know the election results, but I'm providing some context for people.





But you missed the most important "context".

The GOP, took it all. Nothing else really matters. ^^
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But you missed the most important "context".

The GOP, took it all. Nothing else really matters. ^^


Well, you're not really much of a thinking person so you're not interested in analyzing the election results beyond the topline conclusions, but there's other people here that are.

Trump won by less than Hillary did in the popular vote. There's several Democratic senate candidates who won, and performed much better than Kamala did. These are things that are interesting and worth thinking about, but if you aren't interested, you could just not post?

This post was edited by IceMage on Nov 13 2024 09:11am
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Quote (IceMage @ Nov 13 2024 10:11am)
Well, you're not really much of a thinking person





I am, therefore I think. ^^

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Quote (IceMage @ Nov 13 2024 10:11am)
Well, you're not really much of a thinking person so you're not interested in analyzing the election results beyond the topline conclusions, but there's other people here that are.

Trump won by less than Hillary did in the popular vote. There's several Democratic senate candidates who won, and performed much better than Kamala did. These are things that are interesting and worth thinking about, but if you aren't interested, you could just not post?


HRC 48.2% vs Trump 46.1% (Trump won EC)

Trump 50.2% vs Harris 48.2% (Trump won EC)

its interesting but not for the reason you stated imo. HRC won .1% more of the popular vote by spread (2.1% vs 2.0%), and lost the EC.

Trump gained 4% in the popular vote, still won the EC, and has a true (albeit slim) literal vote mandate over 50%. this is down from Biden's 51.3% mandate win in 2020, but with 6 more EC votes.

2016 total votes: 128,838,342
2020 total votes: 155,507,476
2024 total votes: 147,897,519 (95.9% reported, so about 154.2m votes potentially, unless that's precincts, but still 150m-ish votes i'd guess worst case)

the real take away there is no 2020 was not an anomaly of voter turnout. in fact it just represents an increase in voter engagement that stuck around 4 years later, even with many states reverting back to pre-covid voting requirements for mail in ballots. democracy is working, the people have voted for what they want and won a clear mandate across both voted in branches of govt, with a stranglehold on the elected branch of SCOTUS.

an interesting stat for context, in 1932 FDR won a clear mandate, had an electoral college in of 472 vs 59, lost only 6 states, yet carried only 57.4% of the popular vote. and in a similar parallel Herbert Hoover was the incumbent POTUS who presided over the beginnings of the great depression, the clear mandate vote to unseat him was a result of a purely economic drive which is what modern GOP strategists attribute 2024 to, econ and immigration. it's clearly more nuanced than that but an interesting footnote none the less.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Nov 13 2024 10:19am
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Musk and Vivek named to lead a new department of government efficiency. That's going to be interesting for sure.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna179899


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