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May 4 2022 01:23pm
epic REEEE of them all
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shes right though. democrats dont give a fuk about you. abortion is genetic harvesting. it doesnt get funded because they "care" bout body autonomy or some chit.
Ana Kasparian had a meltdown over the SCOTUS draft
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May 4 2022 01:24pm
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You're also in a vastly different position in life than the bulk of the people having abortions, and our view points are often a reflection of the aggregate of our own individual circumstances.


That's a fair point. I wouldn't judge anyone harshly for seeking an abortion but if they can manage the child I'd encourage them to do so. If they feel its going to ruin their life I'm not one to impose my views on them and wouldn't restrict their freedoms to pursue an abortion.

I dont think society gains anything by throwing women in jail over abortions.

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May 4 2022 01:27pm
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no wonder you repeatedly "whooshed" it... it's not hilariously poor reading comprehension and lack of basic logic, one simply can't be a true, not religiously motivated anti-choicer while maintaining intellectually honest.


English?
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May 4 2022 01:37pm
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A lot are, especially in the Catholic church. If a woman weeps for aborted fetuses, I'm not going to question the sincerity of her belief and I'm going to assume it comes from a place of compassion. Many of those people STRONGLY support adoption, expanded childcare, etc. There's a reason why many on the right want to expand benefits for families. In my experience, your average pro-lifer genuinely wants to help children. I also think you need to distinguish between VOTERS and the people creating the policy. You're not wrong that many elected officials are full of shit and they often ignore the will of the voters.

As to the question why they oppose pragmatic measures, there are a number of reasons:
1) They could simply be misinformed and they would say something like "condoms don't work and only encourage more sex"
2) They may believe that alternative paths exist that haven't been tried (how many times have we heard from libertarians that we've never REALLY had a free market lol)

It should not surprise you that many Americans will vote for things that are actually COUNTER to their belief system when you look at the practical effects of the policy.


i'm not talking about sheltered bible karens, unaware of how broken and cruel the foster care and adoption systems are, unable to imagine how different and destitute other parts of america are, thinking it's right to force their narrow set of morals and simplistic understanding of life on everyone, i'm talking about conservative lawmakers opposing social safety nets and financial support for mothers and children, opposing comprehensive sex ed and affordable healthcare, measures KNOWN to decrease teen pregnancies and abortions overall.

i'm talking about people like you and santara, fully aware of the consequences and motivations of this kind of legislation, and still supporting it, deluding yourselves that it's morally right, rather than predictably cruel and discriminatory.

the rest of the civilised world, societies that actually care about and protect children, and support young mothers, all guarantee the right to abortion. you know why? because the idea that a woman just flippantly decides to "murder a baby" is nothing but anti-choice propaganda by religious zealots. educated and compassionate people know that women choosing this option are often in incredibly desperate situations, and forcing them to have a child (even if it's the result of a rape or incest) can be devastating. also, it is simply not the government's decision to make.

it's funny how american christian fundamentalists' jesus is basically the exact opposite of new testament jesus...
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May 4 2022 01:38pm
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English?


well apparently it can be both, intellectual dishonesty AND poor reading comprehension...
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May 4 2022 01:39pm
lets be honest about it leftie frauds. its nothing about fetus is not a baby or rape or some other chit excuse. its about convenience.

it all comes down to, is sex a responsibility or is it a toy? what kind of person are you going to be? choices you make now my haunt u later on

in the meantime its just profit for the people selling the parts
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May 4 2022 01:41pm
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the rest of the civilised world, societies that actually care about and protect children, and support young mothers, all guarantee the right to abortion. you know why? because the idea that a woman just flippantly decides to "murder a baby" is nothing but anti-choice propaganda by religious zealots. educated and compassionate people know that women choosing this option are often in incredibly desperate situations, and forcing them to have a child (even if it's the result of a rape or incest) can be devastating. also, it is simply not the government's decision to make.


I am not saying abortion should be illegal but the picture you paint is incomplete. Not all women choosing abortion are desperate. A lot of them choose to abort simply because having a child would cramp their care-free lifestyle.
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I am not saying abortion should be illegal but the picture you paint is incomplete. Not all women choosing abortion are desperate. A lot of them choose to abort simply because having a child would cramp their care-free lifestyle.


read again, i said "often" not "all". republicans want to punish "all" women for abortions though, no matter the reason, including even the most vile ones you can think of, like rape and incest. they also oppose measures most suited to ACTUALLY prevent "convenience" abortions, proving that it's not about "protecting life", but about controlling women. and again, it doesn't even matter, because it's not the government's decision to make.

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May 4 2022 01:52pm
Abortion should be used for extreme circumstances (rape, incest, life-saving situations), not as a form of birth control.
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May 4 2022 01:52pm
tbh if we didnt have women bragging about having 20 abortions i dont think we'd see this issue so elevated. many advocates thought roe was untouchable, so these idiots didnt think rubbing it in would have consequences. and sadly its MAYBE 1 in 1000 women that get an abortion that are so flippant with their disrespect for the baby they aborted. almost all feel sadness for the act.

same logic applies to the welfare queen, who isnt a common person, but their existence and flippant bragging gives idiots the anecdotal evidence they seek.
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