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Jun 13 2018 10:00am
Quote (djman72 @ Jun 13 2018 07:53am)
As you are aware, Trump is the devil reincarnate who is related to Hitler and eats babies for dinner with his McDonalds while watching shark week.

You could change Trump to any "republican" and a good portion of pard would think the same thing. It's not really the person, it's just the label.


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Jun 13 2018 10:04am
Quote (djman72 @ Jun 13 2018 08:53am)
As you are aware, Trump is the devil reincarnate who is related to Hitler and eats babies for dinner with his McDonalds while watching shark week.

You could change Trump to any "republican" and a good portion of pard would think the same thing. It's not really the person, it's just the label.


Most of the "liberals' (which you guys have turned into pretty much anyone that doesn't suck at the Trump twitter teet) that post here from the US are quite reasonable and many of them are well informed individuals

the silliness comes from the foreigners mostly

If you and yours actually read what people type and chilled out before going into attack mode you would be able to see that

the "liberals" keep threads somewhat substantive while the memers, trump shills, and foreigners do their thing
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Jun 13 2018 10:04am
Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 13 2018 11:00am)
with ketchup no doubt.



just what i'd expect from a person who joined the sub during the election, lol.

there was a time when the sub was far less partisan. u still saw some partisan mudslinging, but WAY less. i expect it to go back that way a bit in 2024, but we'll see if the GOP puts up a trump clone.


We live in polarizing times. There are just as many who are the same with Obama and the (D) Label.

Not Hilary though, everyone should agree on how awful she is, She couldn't even defeat Trump...... Terrible
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Jun 13 2018 10:11am
Quote (Beowulf @ Jun 13 2018 11:04am)
Most of the "liberals' (which you guys have turned into pretty much anyone that doesn't suck at the Trump twitter teet) that post here from the US are quite reasonable and many of them are well informed individuals

the silliness comes from the foreigners mostly

If you and yours actually read what people type and chilled out before going into attack mode you would be able to see that

the "liberals" keep threads somewhat substantive while the memers, trump shills, and foreigners do their thing


Not sure when "attack mode" was engaged, but okay. TY for input.

Also, I don't consider anyone who isn't on Trump's nuts a liberal. That would be silly, and i would venture a large portion of the you and yours crew you are referring to see it that way as well.
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Jun 13 2018 10:13am
Quote (IceMage @ Jun 13 2018 08:37am)
So rhetoric and optics do matter in your opinion... unless Trump says something stupid, then it should be ignored outright. Got it.



Nobody is crying... I'm expressing bewilderment at the president's words because they don't make any strategic sense.

Do you think Chinese, Japanese, North Korean and South Korean officials use the same decipher code as you to determine whether Trump's statements are serious or not? Cause this statement surely doesn't jive with a maximum pressure campaign. There's good will gestures, and then there's this.


There are back channels where adults talk and make real decisions. I can guarantee that none of those nations were as up in arms as you are about Trump bragging on Twitter.

You can do whatever you want man, it's just a really dumb way to approach politics. Politicians & especially Trump will portray themselves in a positive light 10/10 times, and that's exactly what this tweet is about. At best it's signal that our relationship with NK is going to get better, at worst it's just empty bragging. Relax, take a breath, and realize life goes on.
Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 13 2018 08:30am)
1.) Icemage is saying the exact same things Ben Shapiro has been saying on the issue (see yesterday's show where he looks at everything from individual statements to flag placements), liberals amirite?

2.) "you got knocked the fuck out is a meme", watch Friday, you're welcome.


I don't watch Shapiro. I just took what he said at face value, which is that Trumps tweet of saying how NK is no longer a nuclear threat to be some meaningful and negative statement. It's not, it's braggadacious textbook Trump, that's all, no need to think about it in 14 dimensions and extract some latent effects on how the world is going to take this tweet.
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Jun 13 2018 10:15am
Quote (Beowulf @ Jun 13 2018 11:04am)
Most of the "liberals' (which you guys have turned into pretty much anyone that doesn't suck at the Trump twitter teet) that post here from the US are quite reasonable and many of them are well informed individuals

the silliness comes from the foreigners mostly

If you and yours actually read what people type and chilled out before going into attack mode you would be able to see that

the "liberals" keep threads somewhat substantive while the memers, trump shills, and foreigners do their thing


Every thread is chalked full of Trump cultists bitching and moaning because people here disagree with something he says or does. 80% of the time they don't even defend what he did... yet we're the ones who are emotionally triggered. Lol.
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Jun 13 2018 10:23am
Quote (IceMage @ Jun 13 2018 09:15am)
Every thread is chalked full of Trump cultists bitching and moaning because people here disagree with something he says or does. 80% of the time they don't even defend what he did... yet we're the ones who are emotionally triggered. Lol.


if you're a liberal and I'm a far left loon they better get to work on some new nicknames for the actual people that get them so excited all the time
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Jun 13 2018 10:24am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jun 13 2018 11:13am)
There are back channels where adults talk and make real decisions. I can guarantee that none of those nations were as up in arms as you are about Trump bragging on Twitter.

You can do whatever you want man, it's just a really dumb way to approach politics. Politicians & especially Trump will portray themselves in a positive light 10/10 times, and that's exactly what this tweet is about. At best it's signal that our relationship with NK is going to get better, at worst it's just empty bragging. Relax, take a breath, and realize life goes on.


This isn't reality television... it's the most important geopolitical problem Trump is facing.

I think a really dumb way to approach politics is to accept as a given that what Trump says doesn't matter... except when North Korea capitulates on something... then what he said actually did matter. But hey, I'm just experiencing TDS because I want the president to succeed on this issue, and him capitulating rhetorically is not going to help him succeed.

If we're still both here after the new president gets elected, it'll be fun to watch you completely reverse yourself. No consistency whatsoever.

This post was edited by IceMage on Jun 13 2018 10:27am
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Jun 13 2018 10:27am
Quote (IceMage @ Jun 13 2018 11:15am)
Every thread is chalked full of Trump cultists bitching and moaning because people here disagree with something he says or does. 80% of the time they don't even defend what he did... yet we're the ones who are emotionally triggered. Lol.


To be fair there’s a significant amount of bitching & moaning from every conceivable side
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Jun 13 2018 10:27am
Quote (IceMage @ Jun 13 2018 12:24pm)
This isn't reality television... it's the most important geopolitical problem Trump is facing.

I think a really dumb way to approach politics is to accept as a given that what Trump says doesn't matter... except when North Korea capitulates on something... then what he said actually did matter. But hey, I'm just experiencing TDS because I want the president to succeed on this issue, and him capitulating rhetorically is not going to help him succeed.


An overwhelming majority of Americans like the way NK has been handled so far

Quote (IceMage @ Jun 13 2018 12:15pm)
Every thread is chalked full of Trump cultists bitching and moaning because people here disagree with something he says or does. 80% of the time they don't even defend what he did... yet we're the ones who are emotionally triggered. Lol.


You never criticize his actions, just him as a person. Big difference

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Jun 13 2018 10:29am
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