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Jun 1 2018 07:49am
Quote (IceMage @ Jun 1 2018 09:48am)
You think the president has no influence on the tone of discourse in the country?


That’s an easy excuse - people are still responsible for what they say.
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Jun 1 2018 07:50am
IceMage at it again

trying to take down the price is right and the 700 club with one stone
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Jun 1 2018 07:53am
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People are their own responsibility. If you make a mistake it isnt the president’s fault


icepeon is a lefty, he wants the state to determine all actions done by the citizens
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icepeon is a lefty, he wants the state to determine all actions done by the citizens


You aren't even right

you're just the political equivalent of the hyena that chews on his own leg in the Lion King
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Jun 1 2018 08:04am
Quote (Chainsaw47 @ Jun 1 2018 08:49am)
That’s an easy excuse - people are still responsible for what they say.


I never said they weren't... but there's a reason the discourse has lowered. If Jeb Bush was elected president I don't think Colbert and Bee would've made those same comments. And if they did, they would be fired immediately.

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Jun 1 2018 08:10am
Quote (IceMage @ Jun 1 2018 10:04am)
I never said they weren't... but there's a reason the discourse has lowered. If Jeb Bush was elected president I don't think Colbert and Bee would've made those same comments. And if they did, they would be fired immediately.



They wouldn’t make such comments because they wouldn’t have a free pass to say whatever they want. Trump made a bunch of unprofessional comments, both before and after being elected, but everyone else chose to lower their standards.
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Jun 1 2018 08:11am
Quote (Beowulf @ 1 Jun 2018 09:56)
You aren't even right

you're just the political equivalent of the hyena that chews on his own leg in the Lion King


cry more you failed doxxer e-bully woman-hating thug :rofl:

e: reported, btw

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Quote (IceMage @ Jun 1 2018 07:04am)
I never said they weren't... but there's a reason the discourse has lowered. If Jeb Bush was elected president I don't think Colbert and Bee would've made those same comments. And if they did, they would be fired immediately.


it's just more overt now

the ridiculous shit that mainstream Glenn Beck (and others on the largest news network) was/were saying and doing during the Obama years was super disgusting and in the grand scheme of things much worse than name calling

that was all food for the racists

and now we are seeing similar thing towards trump, the blind hatred profiteering

I dunno what would have happened under Jeb but I think both sides have been heading the wrong way for a long time in the media



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Jun 1 2018 08:18am
Quote (Chainsaw47 @ Jun 1 2018 09:10am)
They wouldn’t make such comments because they wouldn’t have a free pass to say whatever they want. Trump made a bunch of unprofessional comments, both before and after being elected, but everyone else chose to lower their standards.


It's not just that they can get away with it now... it's that the president is undignified and mean-spirited... so the discourse in the country has lowered. Comedians feel free to match that tone.

You really aren't disputing anything I've said though.

Quote (Beowulf @ Jun 1 2018 09:13am)
it's just more overt now

the ridiculous shit that mainstream Glenn Beck (and others on the largest news network) was/were saying and doing during the Obama years was super disgusting and in the grand scheme of things much worse than name calling

that was all food for the racists

and now we are seeing similar thing towards trump, the blind hatred profiteering

I dunno what would have happened under Jeb but I think both sides have been heading the wrong way for a long time in the media


Agreed.
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Jun 1 2018 08:25am
Quote (IceMage @ Jun 1 2018 10:18am)
It's not just that they can get away with it now... it's that the president is undignified and mean-spirited... so the discourse in the country has lowered. Comedians feel free to match that tone.

You really aren't disputing anything I've said though.


I’m just saying that Trump is not responsible for lowering the discourse. People will use what you call being ‘undignified and mean-spirited’ to do the same themselves. They’re still responsible for what they say and and it doesn’t make it ‘okay’.

If everyone is driving 80 in a 70 zone and you decide to do the same, you’re still responsible for the ticket you’ll get.
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