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Sep 27 2014 06:00pm
Quote (Scaly @ 27 Sep 2014 18:37)
Just for the record... I don't think sterilising them is the right thing to do... I just think it's the best option we have. Sterilise and quarantine. Find me a more humane way of eliminating religion and I'll be all for it. Religious people are still human and most are just victims of religion... They can't control what they believe and I don't think they should suffer any more than is necessary to achieve that goal. I would prefer they not suffer at all...



sounds like the words of a god-fearing atheist zealot to me :P



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This guy gets it, and i'm not done looking for the video, but I most likely will have to bring it up to him on twitch next time I see him on, because its something he briefly talked about.

This guy is obviously pissed off he clicked that link, sorry bro.

I will give you props for this quote, as it made me laugh pretty hard.

"He said he was an atheist who half believed in god and half didn't who was also a christian who believes god is a man made creation. Ffs Voyaging cant you at least try to keep up? The man's trying to make a point."



wait.......this whole fiasco is a troll right? it has to be.. I mean you do reference god in your profile

or maybe that's just a decoy troll too...right?

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Sep 27 2014 06:10pm
Quote (Scaly @ Sep 27 2014 07:37pm)
Just for the record... I don't think sterilising them is the right thing to do...  I just think it's the best option we have


Jeeeez.... forced eugenics for something that isn't even genetic.

Quote (Scaly @ Sep 27 2014 07:37pm)
Find me a more humane way of eliminating religion and I'll be all for it.


If we assume atheism is correct, education and increases in human intelligence should be more than enough.

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Sep 27 2014 06:13pm
Quote (Voyaging @ 28 Sep 2014 00:10)
Jeeeez.... forced eugenics for something that isn't even genetic.


Well it's either that or have their children taken away at birth. It's to limit the exposure of young people to religious people. It's nothing to do with genetics. Obviously your parents teaching you christianity or making you go to sunday school is not necessarily going to make them christians... but it's best to be safe. Religion is a disease... it needs to be quarantined.

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If we assume atheism is correct, education and increases in human intelligence should be more than enough.


True... If we don't kill ourselves first. It will take centuries however and the rise and fall of new religions and old ones is more than possible. The spread of Islam is a great threat as well.
Is it worth it to see another 10 or 20 generations torn apart by religion when we could start building a better world today?


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Sep 27 2014 06:15pm
Quote (Scaly @ Sep 27 2014 07:37pm)
Just for the record... I don't think sterilising them is the right thing to do... I just think it's the best option we have. Sterilise and quarantine. Find me a more humane way of eliminating religion and I'll be all for it. Religious people are still human and most are just victims of religion... They can't control what they believe and I don't think they should suffer any more than is necessary to achieve that goal. I would prefer they not suffer at all...


Why don't you just fucking kill them?
Stop pussyfooting around.
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Sep 27 2014 06:17pm
Quote (Tylr @ 28 Sep 2014 00:15)
Why don't you just fucking kill them? 
Stop pussyfooting around.


I pretty much said exactly why straight after the bolded. Sorry if you find the idea offensive. I'm sure I would too if I was religious.
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Sep 27 2014 06:24pm
Quote (Scaly @ Sep 27 2014 08:13pm)
Well it's either that or have their children taken away at birth. It's to limit the exposure of young people to religious people. It's nothing to do with genetics. Obviously your parents teaching you christianity or making you go to sunday school is not necessarily going to make them christians... but it's best to be safe. Religion is a disease... it needs to be quarantined.


While I agree religion is the cause of a huge amount of suffering and evil in the world, I think your proposed solution is even worse.

I also think religion is a very small existential risk and if humans go extinct I think it's extremely unlikely it would be a direct or even indirect result of religious influence (in fact, I think religion is a beneficial factor in preventing an existential catastrophe).
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Sep 27 2014 06:25pm
Quote (Scaly @ Sep 27 2014 08:17pm)
I pretty much said exactly why straight after the bolded. Sorry if you find the idea offensive. I'm sure I would too if I was religious.


"They are still human, so we're not going to kill them directly, we're just going to kill them forcefully very slowly, and make them wish they were dead."



...Please tell me after all of this time you don't still believe I am religious?



Luckily many religious people are not liberal pussies, and would slaughter your entire supportive population before such an idea was ever respected.


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Sep 27 2014 06:32pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Sep 28 2014 02:24am)
While I agree religion is the cause of a huge amount of suffering and evil in the world, I think your proposed solution is even worse.

I also think religion is a very small existential risk and if humans go extinct I think it's extremely unlikely it would be a direct or even indirect result of religious influence (in fact, I think religion is a beneficial factor in preventing an existential catastrophe).


religion can't prevent an existential catastrophe, it just kicks the can one block down the street
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#319
Sep 27 2014 06:38pm
Quote (Neptunus @ Sep 27 2014 08:32pm)
religion can't prevent an existential catastrophe, it just kicks the can one block down the street


I think the greatest existential risks are prospective technologies, so I think religion's general impact of limiting technological progress my prove to be a reduction in existential risk.
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Sep 27 2014 06:39pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Sep 27 2014 07:38pm)
I think the greatest existential risks are prospective technologies, so I think religion's general impact of limiting technological progress my prove to be a reduction in existential risk.


How does religion limit technological progress?
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