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EndlessSky

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Jul 30 2019 05:13pm

Quote (ChrisKz @ Jul 30 2019 05:18pm)

thats locale rather than policy.

Or population size

Sausageguzzler is the master of shooting himself in the foot

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Jul 30 2019 05:28pm

Quote (EndlessSky @ Jul 30 2019 06:13pm)

Or population size

Sausageguzzler is the master of shooting himself in the foot

Or sawing it.

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Jul 30 2019 07:15pm

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Jul 30 2019 10:51pm

Quote (EndlessSky @ 31 Jul 2019 01:13)

Or population size

Sausageguzzler is the master of shooting himself in the foot

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=81632845&f=119

rofl'ed

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 31 Jul 2019 00:33)

meh. of the 3141 counties in the U.S., Trump won 2626, Clinton won 487, see:
https://www.apnews.com/afs:Content:5265150031

so going by the 2016 results, only 15.49% of the counties in the country are Democratic. therefore, among all counties, the partisan distribution (R/D) is 84.5%/15.5% while the distribution among the poorest counties is, according to your source, 93%/7%.
this already puts those numbers into perspective.

additionally, it must be kept in mind that the Democrats control most of the very populous urban counties, which are so big that they combine depraved, piss-poor areas with average or wealthy neighborhoods. LA county, for example, contains extremely impoverished neighborhoods in South Central LA, Compton etc, but also rich areas like Hollywood and Bel Air. and even if LA county was among the poorest counties in the country, it would still only count for 1 in your metric. if we only count the number of counties, then 2 poor red counties in West Virginia with a combined population of 8000 are considered "worse" than, say, 2 million poor people living in a blue urban county like LA.

the much more meaningful stat would be the share of the poorest 10 or 20% of the American population who are living in Democratic counties vs Republican ones.

Your explanation wasn't needed at all, i know all this, sorry for your time

I was just pushing Ghot

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Jul 30 2019 10:53pm

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Jul 31 2019 02:50am

Quote (Santara @ Jul 30 2019 03:42pm)

I'm sure it will escape him that the cost of living in those counties is far lower as well. Sorry, but I'd be better off making a $50,000 salary in Montgomery County, AL than a $80,000 salary in Los Angeles County, CA.

Thats unfair! When looking at wages in rural america, they must be looked at as if they are living in downtown san francisco. Normalizing for cost of living would prove the left wrong and so it probably makes you a racist. /s

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Jul 31 2019 03:18am

This post was edited by Ghot on Jul 31 2019 03:46am

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Jul 31 2019 05:44am

Quote (IceMage @ Jul 30 2019 06:04pm)

This is a much repeated talking point... but it's hard to see the rationale behind it. Are we supposed to pretend that if politicians made what you believe to be great decisions for decades, there would no longer be areas in America without economic opportunity? Or cities with strained budgets wouldn't have crappy areas with defeated populations?

Of course not, that's why you have places like West Virginia.

But San Francisco's homelessness has everything to do with urban policy and how they divvy up funding. And is there any excuse for the violence in Baltimore? But of course, we focus on a few publicized cases of police misconduct, and ignore the rampant violence that necessitated a heavy police presence to begin with.

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Jul 31 2019 07:21am

Quote (IceMage @ Jul 30 2019 05:04pm)

I think it's hard to argue that years and years of economic and social policy are not a serious component in the current situation of these cities. I think we'd be much better off in these "economic-less" areas if the best policy was implemented. THat's the catch though as we all have different idea's of "best policy".

All i know is that these cities are not doing well in a lot of areas. i can speak directly about Chicago, but it appears to be similar across the board in these places. There are large stretches of area that are unsafe and outsiders shouldn't go. Drugs, shooting, poverty, corruption..... all rampant.

Why wouldn't some of the blame fall on the democratic incumbents who've decided policy for decades? Wouldn't you hold republicans accountable if the shoe were on the other foot?

Quote (Santara @ Jul 30 2019 05:12pm)

QFT x 100

It's a simple truth, but a truth nonetheless.

Quote (ChrisKz @ Jul 30 2019 04:24pm)

Detroit? Detroit is doing amazingly well atm. It was doing bad cuz we had a crook mayor.

Idk about Chicago or st. Louis though. But those are liberal, not red.

I was taking about the pictures in context.

Detroit has a reputation for being a pile of shit. I've been once a few years ago and was told by locals to avoid certain areas and keep to yourself. I'll admit i'm not as well versed on Detroit as some other cities. Care to share why you think it's doing well? Not an attack, i'm curious.

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Jul 31 2019 08:58am

Quote (Ghot @ 31 Jul 2019 04:18)

https://i.imgur.com/qIQDp76.png

You’re committed man lol

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