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Apr 2 2020 09:52am
Quote (theCrossbones @ Apr 2 2020 11:49am)
if he didn't accurately report number but said to the US.. "WE have serious epidemic going on here, we need to be prepared i'm not allowed to report on whats goin on?"
I think maybe this already happened.. Is that not enough of a reason for the pres. to react? oh wait he did ignore those kinds of warnings.
again what do you not understand.


This was happening with sneaked videos from Wuhan to an extent already. So as Black Xstinz said before it's a fair criticism for world inaction based on that footage.

I HIGHLY doubt that an American would of been given access to accurate Chinese numbers that are probably going to remain a state secret for decades.

"We are trying to cover up and minimize the actual death tolls but we'll let in foreign adversary officials who have a high probability to report back"

Like how naive are you? Do you really think the Chinese are this dumb?

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This was happening with sneaked videos from Wuhan to an extent already.

I HIGHLY doubt that an American would of been given access to accurate Chinese numbers that are probably going to remain a state secret for decades.

"We are trying to cover up and minimize the actual death tolls but we'll let in foreign adversary officials who have a high probability to report back"

Like how naive are you? Do you really think the Chinese are this dumb?


ugh... I'm saying the entire planet knew that this was going on in China.. Did they report exact numbers... Who cares? It clearly was in issue if the went military lock down mode.
I was paraphrasing the message that was in many cases reported to have been said the trump.. The fact is as the leader of the US I'm absolutely sure he should have been getting prepared regardless of whether he had the % of infected by age group #'s.
this is so sad that your expectation of our pres is so low.. or is it only because its him?
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Quote (theCrossbones @ Apr 2 2020 11:55am)
ugh... I'm saying the entire planet knew that this was going on in China.. Did they report exact numbers... Who cares? It clearly was in issue if the went military lock down mode.
I was paraphrasing the message that was in many cases reported to have been said the trump.. The fact is as the leader of the US I'm absolutely sure he should have been getting prepared regardless of whether he had the % of infected by age group #'s.
this is so sad that your expectation of our pres is so low.. or is it only because its him?


He should of prepared better, congress should of prepared better, Italy, France, Spain, and essentially everyone outside of Asia should of done a better job, we agree there.

Video footage imo can only tell you so much. Seeing people in hazmat suites carry a corpse is scary but you can't base your decisions on just graphic stuff like that, because it doesn't tell you anything about scale.

That's why the numbers were very important as soon as possible, because numbers give you scale, they give you rates, they give policy makers data to base decisions instead of just random edited footage.

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He should of prepared better, congress should of prepared better, Italy, France, Spain, and essentially everyone outside of Asia should of done a better job, we agree there.

Video footage imo can only tell you so much. Seeing people in hazmat suites carry a corpse is scary but you can't base your decisions on just graphic stuff like that, because it doesn't tell you anything about scale.

That's why the number were very important as soon as possible, because numbers give you scale, they give you rates, they give policy makers data to base decisions instead of just random edited footage.


so you think the only intel reports the WH was getting was youtube?
like what in the actual fuck you think goes on there?

Actually take that back.. Trump may actual make decisions based of his favorite youtubers thrown in a few FOX morning shows..
I guess you have proven your point. Following youtube and Fox no wonder we were under prepared.
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thank you
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so you think the only intel reports the WH was getting was youtube?
like what in the actual fuck you think goes on there?

Actually take that back.. Trump may actual make decisions based of his favorite youtubers thrown in a few FOX morning shows..
I guess you have proven your point. Following youtube and Fox no wonder we were under prepared.


So now the CDC official wasn't that crucial then because he was getting info from somewhere else? He was getting the actual numbers from somewhere else?

Like what's your point besides Trump bad and Trump is at fault?
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So now the CDC official wasn't that crucial then because he was getting info from somewhere else? He was getting the actual numbers from somewhere else?

Like what's your point besides Trump bad and Trump is at fault?


not much.. that is the point here..
Besides he is good no matter what he actually does is your point?
He failed at managing this problem. I would say the positive thing was early travel restrictions.. (he loves to keep people out, so was ez decision)
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Apr 2 2020 10:07am
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So now the CDC official wasn't that crucial then because he was getting info from somewhere else? He was getting the actual numbers from somewhere else?

Like what's your point besides Trump bad and Trump is at fault?


Pretty sure he is putting his son in law in charge of the response.
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Quote (fender @ Apr 2 2020 11:10am)
and what do you base that on? which scientists / theories / facts / models predict that outcome, and in what way do you think they are superior to those that predict much larger numbers?




The part of what I said that you deleted.
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