Here's the main argument:

"Inadmissibility differs from deprivation of nationality"

Harder to apply it to children.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Mar 3 2019 03:43pm

He likely would, courts are pretty harsh on terrorism here.

ICC is a good idea, I'd support that tbh. Not gonna happen since that is currently reserved for African war criminals. Though you have to be aware that it is going to be very hard to prove active combat participation/participation in terorrist acts. Membership of a terrorist organization can be pursued, but that alone is not enough for life sentences (similarly as the sentencing here, no active participation could be proven). We just have so little evidence that it is hard to convict people of crimes. And convicting people without evidence should never be possible, we need to remember that too.

Taking away people's citizenships when they do things the government does not like opens another can of worms.

I do honestly feel pity for the child, children do not deserve to be raised and indoctrinated by extremists, it would be better off being adopted here.

I don't think there's an easy solution here. All have their downsides.

Just let them serve life sentences in Syria/Kurdistan/Iraq. That's the most clean solution.

Idk if their courts can be trusted. Very likely that they can bribe or otherwise sneak their way out of serving a sentence there with how chaotic everything is.

The governments there have fought a bloody and costly civil war against jihadists. I'm pretty sure they won't be easy on them, especially in Assad's Syria.

The child is a citizen of the country he/she was born in surely, refugee or not. If you're born outside the UK to a British parent an application would have to be completed in order for the child to be a British citizen, so right now her child isn't British.

the evidence situation is the exact reason why we shouldnt let them come back
i fully agree that we have to protect our standards, but we will be the ones to suffer if we let this unique situation undermine our state
"yeah we fully know that you helped to murder, rape and oppress hundreds of thousands, but since all of this happened in a sinkhole thousands of miles away without direct proof for us to look at we will let you go after a few years of prison"

thats just fucked up and cant possibly our answer to this or these people will win

not to mention that if this particular individual goes to jail for 6 years....these guys have plenty of friends inside already and thats a lot of time to make plans/contacts etc
they can even make money to start their "new career", like the 9/11 attacker motassadeq who just got released from prison with a 7k€ check in his pocket
btw, prison chiefs in europe are already complaining that for every jihadist you send to jail, you will get 5 new ones out of there (thats why islamists do not only need to be locked away permanently, but also separated from the rest)

most likely we as european citizens will end up on the losing side, as always, instead of just once showing some strength



we should give them some kind of carte blanche, so they can do whatever they see fit
its only fair, these terrorists have committed insane crimes, the people there have a right to get the justice they demand

This post was edited by ampoo on Mar 3 2019 05:11pm

Corbyn agressed

A man was arrested after British opposition Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn was hit by an egg while on a visit in his north London constituency on Sunday, media reported.
A Labour Party source said Corbyn was visiting a mosque and Muslim welfare center on Sunday and was unharmed.
The Metropolitan Police said a Member of Parliament had been struck by an egg on Sunday afternoon.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-corbyn-egg/uk-opposition-leader-corbyn-hit-by-egg-media-idUSKCN1QK0NP


So is it a far right conservative or neo-zionist terror attack ? That's the question.

It was a right wing Brexiteer, just look at any news article. You're showing your true colours though with the neo Zionist crap.