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if there ever needs to be a rallying point on PARD for most of us to get behind is the shitty quality of most of Ghots memes


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About 3,000 military forces loyal to the Vichy government were taken prisoner.
It was proposed to these soldiers to join the Free French Forces to continue the fight against Nazi Germany and its allies, but very few rallied to the Free France (only a few tens).

Which is logical, i guess i can do the same kind of shortcut with last confederates etc...
You are such a failure dude. And giving political lessons to others on the top of that. :rofl:
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Jul 16 2019 10:27am
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Either character matters or it doesn't.


Of course it matters, but far less than policy that will actually impact our lives.

If Steele would rather have a stacked liberal Supreme Court for his lifetime, good for him. But it's ridiculous for him to call himself a conservative. He clearly values those ideals far less than maintaining the illusion that politics is some sort of gentleman's profession.

Winning elections matters. Steele couldn't do it. Romney couldn't do it. McCain couldn't do it. Jeb certainly wasn't going to do it.

The Republican party needed to change. Is Trump the standard bearer we need? Hardly, but better than being the loyal opposition as Democratic priorities are pushed through Congress and the Courts for the next 20 years.

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Of course it matters, but far less than policy that will actually impact our lives.

If Steele would rather have a stacked liberal Supreme Court for his lifetime, good for him. But it's ridiculous for him to call himself a conservative. He clearly values those ideals far less than maintaining the illusion that politics is some sort of gentleman's profession.

Winning elections matters. Steele couldn't do it. Romney couldn't do it. McCain couldn't do it. Jeb certainly wasn't going to do it.

The Republican party needed to change. Is Trump the standard bearer we need? Hardly, but better than being the loyal opposition as Democratic priorities are pushed through Congress and the Courts for the next 20 years.


No, it doesn't matter. If Trump's behavior in office doesn't rise to the level of social conservatives/evangelicals/religious voters supporting another candidate running against him in the primary, then character doesn't matter anymore.

It's beside the point, but people need to be consistent on this. Was Hillary a horrible, incompetent, dislikeable candidate or not? If she was, you can't then argue that the orange buffoon was the only one who could've beat her. That's silly.
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Quote (IceMage @ Jul 16 2019 12:56pm)
No, it doesn't matter. If Trump's behavior in office doesn't rise to the level of social conservatives/evangelicals/religious voters supporting another candidate running against him in the primary, then character doesn't matter anymore.

It's beside the point, but people need to be consistent on this. Was Hillary a horrible, incompetent, dislikeable candidate or not? If she was, you can't then argue that the orange buffoon was the only one who could've beat her. That's silly.


Trump's character was weighed against other factors. The establishment candidates wanted to run as Democrat-lites. Cruz was genuinely unelectable. I personally liked Kasich, but he got no traction.

Would another candidate have won PA and Michigan? I doubt it. Ohio is now deeply red, would another candidate have achieved that? Kasich?
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Jul 16 2019 12:16pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jul 16 2019 09:59am)
About 3,000 military forces loyal to the Vichy government were taken prisoner.
It was proposed to these soldiers to join the Free French Forces to continue the fight against Nazi Germany and its allies, but very few rallied to the Free France (only a few tens).

Which is logical, i guess i can do the same kind of shortcut with last confederates etc...
You are such a failure dude. And giving political lessons to others on the top of that. :rofl:


Did I fucking ask you a question? No, I most certainly did not. Go choke on a baguette, surrender monkey.
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Jul 16 2019 12:17pm
Quote (Santara @ 16 Jul 2019 14:16)
Did I fucking ask you a question? No, I most certainly did not. Go choke on a baguette, surrender monkey.


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Jul 16 2019 12:21pm
Quote (Santara @ 16 Jul 2019 20:16)
Did I fucking ask you a question? No, I most certainly did not. Go choke on a baguette, surrender monkey.


say that to the fucked dog who tried to give you an education

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Quote (Santara @ Jul 16 2019 02:16pm)
Did I fucking ask you a question? No, I most certainly did not. Go choke on a baguette, surrender monkey.


LMAO
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