You're free to just leave and go back to the place you're running from because your life is in danger - or you can stay here and hope you don't just die in a detention cell.

Great choices.

How about we just provide the minimum of decent care for these people? Beds, sanitary products, clean water not from a toilet bowl, food that isn't a frozen, undefrosted ready meal. Processing asylum claims might take some time but how about not tearing families apart as well? And providing proper representation for people at immigration hearings instead of putting a young child who speaks English as a second language on trial alone?

No thats not what you would say

These figures are bullshit, germany's tax rate is at maximum 45% if you earn about $330,000 usd a year, from $66,000-265,000 euros is taxed at 42%, every other bracket is lower.
The brackets are progressive also so only the amount above the bracket is taxed that much.
Never bothered to check the rest.
The services offered in those countries are generally more than enough to make up for the small tax difference between them and the states.
I should mention the us pays 37% for sweet bugger all, whilst these countries often have free education and healthcare, so the question is do you give up 5% of your income for a free education and healthcare?
Odds are paying for it in america is going to cost more than that 5%.
Btw, once you account for state taxes, almost every american pays more than the average german, californians pay almost as much as the greeks.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Jul 15 2019 11:52pm

How bout we just send them all to the UK so you experts can show them how a real country functions.




/e




Best check your US facts. We pay about 30% income tax (average), and an average of 7% sales tax, and our gas costs half as much. And I'm just barely scraping the surface.

This post was edited by Ghot on Jul 15 2019 11:53pm

Ok, so now we are talking average tax levels?
Your meme had 2.5% higher than germany's MAXIMUM tax bracket.

So you say... w/o any proof. Also we pay less for just about everything as well. Cars, homes, food, tools, gadgets, etc.


?e This is 2015, but close enough.

https://taxfoundation.org/how-much-do-people-pay-taxes/




This post was edited by Ghot on Jul 16 2019 12:02am

https://www.expatica.com/de/finance/taxes/income-tax-in-germany-for-employees-108112/
Income tax in Germany is progressive: first, income tax rates start at 14%, then they rise incrementally to 42%; last, very high income levels are taxed at 45%. The top tax rate of 42% applies to taxable income above €55,961. Finally, for taxable income above €265,327, a 45% tax is applicable

Forget germany, i do not know enough about germany to argue the case.
Lets look at australia, which has a more socialised system than germany, and we have heavily subsidised education.
Our maximum tax rate is 38% and in 2022 we are dropping it to 32% for anyone from 40-200k incomes.
Sure we pay more for fuel and food, but the average australian is FAR wealthier than the average american.
We are second on earth for wealth, america sits around 21st.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Jul 16 2019 12:04am

We give them beds, food, medication and don't lock them in overcrowded cages.

I don't like our for-profit removal centres either. But they're a hundred times more humane than the US's barbaric concentration camps.

This post was edited by TransTankie on Jul 16 2019 12:20am