The last men’s World Cup generated over $4 billion.

The men received 9% of that.

This women’s World Cup generated $75 million.

The women received 14% of that.

So the women actually get a larger portion of the revenue compared the men, however the men’s WC generates a shit ton more money.

never seen this stat, interesting.

thats true for the men, but not for the women. yes, the top female stars, your Martas and Alex Morgans, they earn a very decent wage from their clubs. But for the majority of the female soccer players, club wages are not that great. In the German women's league, which is one of the top4 leagues in the world, there were players who worked side jobs until a couple of years ago. Payments for the NT, as well as the merchandising value that a player gains from being on the NT, are far bigger sources of income for female soccer players.

I know the salaries for the women are low. I still don't have a problem with the KNVB paying our female NT as much as the men for a 2nd place. At least the women will have something to strive for then.

If the KNVB can afford it, fine. Doesnt change the fact that for many associations, equal pay would mean that they have to pay their women's team something like 60% or even more than 100% of their revenue from the WWC, which just isnt feasible.

Just lower the men's until you can match it then. Like I said, for the men the NT winnings are a pittance anyway.

"Lower the men's pay to a pittance so that women can be paid equally- out of ideological reasons - even though the men create far more revenue than the women" - yeah, that's not toxic at all and will go down really well....
I get your point, but such a proposal would lead to a well-justified outcry.

Lol

what stats/source are you using for the value men vs women add?

you may have posted it already, sorry if so. post# or link will do.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jul 9 2019 02:59pm

havent posted it yet, assuming that it would be a no brainer. but here you go:

FIFA set to make 6.1 billion dollars from the 2018 (men's) world cup:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/12/sports/fifa-revenue.html
(they actually ended up making a revenue of $6.5 billion.)


I couldnt find numbers for the revenue of the 2015 or 2019 women's world cups, but this article here:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2019/03/07/world-cup-soccer-pay-disparity-between-men-and-women-is-justified/
says that the revenue of the 2011 women's WC was $73m, while the 2010 men's WC generated roughly $4bn, or 54 times more than the women. which means that for the 2010/2011 cycle, the women got a higher share of the money generated than the men.

now, as I said, since the USWNT is super successful while the USMNT sucks, the american women have generated more revenue since about 2016 than their male counterparts, at least if we were to believe this article:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/07/08/are-us-womens-soccer-players-really-earning-less-than-men/

but this is still an absolute exception internationally, and probably also has something to do with the fact that the US is one of the few countries where soccer is considered a girl's sport and traditionally more popular with girls than boys.
nonetheless, if the numbers cited in the WaPo article are true, then the USWNT does indeed deserve equal pay.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 9 2019 03:47pm