Quote (Scaly @ Mar 18 2018 11:41pm)
Jesus. Tommy fucking Robinson. There's a blast from the past.
I thought he was pretty irrelevant nowadays.
He's had a resurgence, especially outside the UK as evidenced by tuna's post, since becoming a frequent guest of Alex Jones and all those circles.
Quote (tonerbond @ Mar 18 2018 11:46pm)
>racist
Meanwhile, in telford...
Identifying crimes and prosecuting those responsible regardless of their ethnic background is essential to an equal society, why can't I believe in that while simultaneously acknowledging obvious racism, bigotry and xenophobia when I see it? What Tommy and others do is use a case like Telford to then denigrate all Muslims, immigrants and refugees. That's where I draw the line. I'm am advocate for intervention in many Muslim schools across the country where there's evidence of non-curricular backwards teaching that leads to radicalisation. I point you to a related post I made re British Muslims:
Quote (dro94 @ Feb 13 2018 11:13pm)
Just to clear up any potential misconceptions, my opinion on immigration is the following:
- We are a country of over 65m with one of the highest organic population growth rates in Europe in a country that's 320 million km*2, making us one of the most densely populated countries in the world. As a result of these geographical constraints and high population growth, there is a fundamental lack of housing supply that no government can solve by getting rid of greenbelt, punishing private landlords for following obvious monetary incentives or subsidising private companies to build homes. We're living during one of the worst housing crises in history and the additional 200,000 net migrants a year is an additional unwanted pressure on the housing market.
- Our productivity as a country is so bad that the French could take the Friday off and still produce more units of output a week than us. While that is in part due to a lack of infrastructure spending in the last 10 years, it's also down to the influx of largely unskilled and semi skilled immigrants that drive down productivity and wages.
http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migrants-in-the-uk-labour-market-an-overview/- Western principles and values are being eroded due to massively (changed/)changing demographics, primarily a result of 1950's immigration from the commonwealth countries of India and Pakistan. 2nd and 3rd generation British Muslims are, on average, extreme social conservatives that poll highly on views like death to apostates, homosexuality being outlawed, terrorism being justified in some or all cases, it should be illegal to criticise Islam, and so on. These aren't all done by the daily mail, either.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/11/british-muslims-strong-sense-of-belonging-poll-homosexuality-sharia-lawhttps://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/738852/British-Muslims-Sharia-Law-enforced-UK-Islam-pollhttp://www.channel4.com/info/press/news/c4-survey-and-documentary-reveals-what-british-muslims-really-thinkhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/one-in-four-british-muslims-have-some-sympathy-for-motives-behind-charlie-hebdo-attacks-10068440.htmlhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.htmlTo conclude, our successive governments are far more responsible than migrants for causing our economic woes and we shouldn't use them as the scapegoat like they so often are, but we should also recognise the drawbacks of mass immigration considering the size of our country and pressure on services like housing and the NHS. What is far more concerning than the economy to me is the erosion of Western values and liberalism that is inextricably linked to the censorship of views that challenge cultural relativism, immigration or religion; and cordoning off people of different backgrounds which has resulted in the progressive slide of young Muslims into extremist ideologies that their parents and grandparents didn't have when they came here.