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Jun 20 2019 11:12pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 21 2019 05:04am)
Steering clear of Trump was kiiiiiiinda easier without Trump on the ballot, dont you agree? They wont have this luxury in 2020. Moreover, most of their 2018 candidates were chosen in local primaries and tailored to the voters of that specific district or state - in the 2020 presidential race, they need to settle on one particular candidate who is able to unite a very diverse big tent party which ranges from the Blue Dog Coalition to the Democratic Socialists of America. By being able to keep things localized, the Democratic party was able to hide the huge fissures and ideological frictions within their party. In 2020, those things will break out in full strength.

Additionally, we shouldnt forget that almost all incumbents get a bloody nose during their first midterms. The blue wave of 2018 imho is not so much the result of brilliant strategy on the part of Pelosi or the DNC, it simply occurred because many voters wanted to put a check on president Trump who was not very popular and seen as a loose gun that desperately needed to be reined in.


Another point, which admittedly is speculation on my part, is the following: I suspect that a good amount of centrist/moderate swing voters in 2016 voted for Republican congressional candidates to put a check on the presumed President Clinton, and never wanted Washington to fall under unified GOP control. Thus, them voting for Democrats in 2018 merely reflected a correction of their strategical miscalculation and does not represent a large-scale, long-term shift of these center voters into reliably blue voters. (Note that those ideological centrists are not identical with "upscale sun belt suburbs", which are indeed trending blue, even though there is some overlap.)


Agree with this
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Quote (excellence @ Jun 21 2019 02:34am)
http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/24/investing/stocks-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/ - A Trump win would sink stocks. What about Clinton?
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/donald-trump-wall-street-effect-markets-230164 - Economists: A Trump win would tank the markets
http://fortune.com/2016/11/08/donald-trump-stocks-crash/ - A Huge Hedge Fund Says Stocks Will Crash if Donald Trump Wins
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-stock-market-could-crash-if-donald-trump-is-elected-2016-10-31 - The stock market could crash if Donald Trump is elected president
http://www.investors.com/news/fbi-reveals-more-evidence-that-stocks-will-fall-if-trump-wins/ - FBI Reveals More Evidence That Stocks Will Fall If Trump Wins
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/business/dealbook/what-happens-to-the-markets-if-donald-trump-wins.html - What Happens to the Markets if Donald Trump Wins?..."The conventional wisdom is that, right off the bat, the stock market would fall precipitously."
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tom-blumer/2016/11/10/ny-timess-paul-krugman-trump-wins-markets-will-never-recover - NY Times's Paul Krugman, As Trump Wins: Markets Will 'Never' Recover
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/09/06/Mark-Cuban-Stocks-Will-Crash-if-Trump-Wins - Mark Cuban: Stocks Will Crash if Trump Wins

t-they'll be right eventually!!!!



As much as I love Trump's "fuck you" approach to the political climate, which you subscribe to, he's failing just as previous presidents. His administration is accelerating our national and local debt. For me, that's the ultimate measure of a president. How are we going to pay off this debt we are burdening our children's, children's, children?

Personally? Fuck Europe. Let them grow some balls and militarize. They endorsed and partook in our actions against Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and whatever the hell else while pretending their hands are clean. Europe relies on the Middle East for their oil. Dumbshits like Saucisson6000 think it's all a US game.
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Jun 21 2019 10:09am
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/21/us/politics/andrew-weissmann-book-deal.html

The Trump cult's favorite prosecutor has a book deal. :thumbsup:
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Jun 21 2019 01:02pm
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/06/president-donald-trump-faces-new-rape-accusation.html

Well lets weigh this story on its evidence, consistency and rationality shall we?
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Jun 21 2019 01:28pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 21 2019 02:02pm)
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/06/president-donald-trump-faces-new-rape-accusation.html

Well lets weigh this story on its evidence, consistency and rationality shall we?


I'd be willing to bet that both Bill Clinton and Donald Trump have raped women before.
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Jun 21 2019 01:32pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 21 2019 12:02pm)
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/06/president-donald-trump-faces-new-rape-accusation.html

Well lets weigh this story on its evidence, consistency and rationality shall we?


He moved on her like a bitch.
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Jun 21 2019 01:33pm
Quote (IceMage @ Jun 21 2019 01:28pm)
I'd be willing to bet that both Bill Clinton and Donald Trump have raped women before.


Are you willing to bet that when Donald Trump was inbetween beauty queen Marla Maples and supermodel Kara Young and having affairs with other models on the side, he decided to rape a 51 year old feminist writer who looks like a ghoul, who uncharacteristically flirtatiously agreed to try on intimate clothing with him in private within minutes of meeting him even though she was famously outspoken against men both before and after that and indeed went decades without any relationships at all, and after which she stayed completely silent even though his relationships were front page of the tabloids at the time, and he ran for president 4 years later, and won the presidency 20 years later during which many other women came forward yet this feminist was still staying silent, a silence she only ended 2 weeks before her book comes out and NY Mag agreed to give her a front page article despite having zero evidence of her story- and did I forget the part where Trump has afaik never touched a woman 50+ years old, even now in his senile age when Melania is still 49?

the ol classic goomshill loaded run-on sentence

This post was edited by Goomshill on Jun 21 2019 01:34pm
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Jun 21 2019 01:38pm
People should focus on the time he raped his wife like I have

But we know why the cult avoids that one and focuses on the random cases nobody will buy into
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Jun 21 2019 01:43pm
Quote (Beowulf @ Jun 21 2019 01:38pm)
People should focus on the time he raped his wife like I have

But we know why the cult avoids that one and focuses on the random cases nobody will buy into


in 2 weeks from now this woman will be a household name, have appearances on major networks and made at least a million dollars
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Jun 21 2019 02:00pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 21 2019 02:43pm)
in 2 weeks from now this woman will be a household name, have appearances on major networks and made at least a million dollars


Shit he raped me too then.
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