same people still living in dying towns with jobs that aren't coming back addiction worse and worse suicides rising

but hey keep reciting Maga and dropping the talking point on black unemployment rates and America first and blah blah

He might win and he probably will but he hasn't done shit for those people

maybe that would have been the case if democrats ran a conciliatory campaign to win over the voters they hemorrhaged
instead they are trying their hardest to alienate white men by demonizing them. You don't quell a populist movement by telling its supporters you're going to fuck up their shit as soon as you get in power

the democrats spending as much as 8 years running against Trump is going to lead to a wave of 2024 candidates who ride his coattails

Factually untrue, like basically everything you say. Pretty boring.

Hows that harassment of the women going, champion of justice?

They are better off than they were before.

So fucking what if one person somewhere has something bad happen to them? Its a country of 300 fucking million people. You can't pass shitty socialist laws just because one person somewhere is crying.

He tapped into exactly what he is and what US culture loves. Reality show drama. Those people you mentioned are still left out. They weren't helped by republicans or republican policy they were used by Trump

He never gave a shit about them he was never going to change the environment they are in. Democrats called them deplorables and didn't even show up to try and Republicans profited and sold snake oil but they are still fucked and they are going to continue to be fucked even worse when this economy takes a hit within the next year or 2

http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/24/investing/stocks-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/ - A Trump win would sink stocks. What about Clinton?
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/donald-trump-wall-street-effect-markets-230164 - Economists: A Trump win would tank the markets
http://fortune.com/2016/11/08/donald-trump-stocks-crash/ - A Huge Hedge Fund Says Stocks Will Crash if Donald Trump Wins
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-stock-market-could-crash-if-donald-trump-is-elected-2016-10-31 - The stock market could crash if Donald Trump is elected president
http://www.investors.com/news/fbi-reveals-more-evidence-that-stocks-will-fall-if-trump-wins/ - FBI Reveals More Evidence That Stocks Will Fall If Trump Wins
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/business/dealbook/what-happens-to-the-markets-if-donald-trump-wins.html - What Happens to the Markets if Donald Trump Wins?..."The conventional wisdom is that, right off the bat, the stock market would fall precipitously."
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tom-blumer/2016/11/10/ny-timess-paul-krugman-trump-wins-markets-will-never-recover - NY Times's Paul Krugman, As Trump Wins: Markets Will 'Never' Recover
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/09/06/Mark-Cuban-Stocks-Will-Crash-if-Trump-Wins - Mark Cuban: Stocks Will Crash if Trump Wins

t-they'll be right eventually!!!!

Weve been over this several times. Republicans are richer and donate more to charity

Its Democrats that commit more crime and make bad decisions. John Haidt helped prove it

lol

Steering clear of Trump was kiiiiiiinda easier without Trump on the ballot, dont you agree? They wont have this luxury in 2020. Moreover, most of their 2018 candidates were chosen in local primaries and tailored to the voters of that specific district or state - in the 2020 presidential race, they need to settle on one particular candidate who is able to unite a very diverse big tent party which ranges from the Blue Dog Coalition to the Democratic Socialists of America. By being able to keep things localized, the Democratic party was able to hide the huge fissures and ideological frictions within their party. In 2020, those things will break out in full strength.

Additionally, we shouldnt forget that almost all incumbents get a bloody nose during their first midterms. The blue wave of 2018 imho is not so much the result of brilliant strategy on the part of Pelosi or the DNC, it simply occurred because many voters wanted to put a check on president Trump who was not very popular and seen as a loose gun that desperately needed to be reined in.


Another point, which admittedly is speculation on my part, is the following: I suspect that a good amount of centrist/moderate swing voters in 2016 voted for Republican congressional candidates to put a check on the presumed President Clinton, and never wanted Washington to fall under unified GOP control. Thus, them voting for Democrats in 2018 merely reflected a correction of their strategical miscalculation and does not represent a large-scale, long-term shift of these center voters into reliably blue voters. (Note that those ideological centrists are not identical with "upscale sun belt suburbs", which are indeed trending blue, even though there is some overlap.)

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jun 20 2019 10:08pm