The comparisons with the flu were always dubious at best, and often times outright stupid.



Nonetheless, I have the feeling that the Trump administration has, for the last couple of days, intentionally been trying to push up expectations for the number of deaths, so that the final results looks better.

If the public expects 200k deaths and the country ends up with 100k, then Trump can point to this number and say "see how well I handled this crisis, I did everything in my power and was successful with my measures". At the same time, raising high/dire expectations also acts as as a hedge against worse-case scenarios.

https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1245447842426216448

Shapiro's bothsidesism destroyed.

According to the numbers, so far the Flu HAS posed more of a threat. An estimated 29,000-59,000 have died from the flu in the US this season (as of mid march). Add to that hundreds of thousands of hospitalizations, and attempting to minimize the impact the Flu has had is flat out stupid.

On the flipside, there have been 5,099 deaths related to COVID19 in the US, out of a couple hundred thousand cases. Also I've noticed they aren't doing much public tracking of age of the dead people, or other underlying health issues in the last month. All data I'm coming across for such statistics are from February, before the virus "officially" hit the US.

COVID19 has become incredibly sensationalized, with very little hard statistical data thrown out. But as far as it goes: More people have been confirmed to have contracted Influenza this flu season, FAR more have been hospitalized, FAR FAR more have had extreme symptoms, and 10x as many have died. And this happens EVERY SINGLE YEAR. This is neither a fast or slow year for the Flu. It's average.

If you want to be afraid of COVID19, be afraid. That's your choice. Attempting to minimize the flu, or the 250,000-400,000 it kills globally EVERY SINGLE YEAR, is just nonsense.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Apr 1 2020 06:04pm

Most people i personally speak too want this information

It's an interesting thing to consider. Also, tracking of financial/economic status, drug use, alcohol use, etc.

Keeping in mind the only symptoms for it are the same as for every other common cold "Fever, Coughing, Sore Throat" wouldn't it be nice to know what prior health issues or substance abuse issues the majority of lethal cases had?

Also everyone tying this in with Trump, and this being an election year, it's kind of wacky. From the moment the US Media latched onto this coronavirus story, they've been pushing how much worse it is than the flu, how everyone should be terrified, etc. As a result, panic buying has occurred, we're 1 step away from martial law with this "social distancing" shit, and the stock market is tanking in quite a few sectors. The #1 achievement of the current administration has been a fucking BOOM in the economy. Now, due primarily it seems to fear mongering and panic spreading, we may end up hurting as bad as during the recession. That clearly benefits democratic hopefuls and anti-trumpers.

Also, I want to know how many of the deaths were people who were already terminal with something else, and they only tested positive for COVID19, but actually died from other causes that would have killed them regardless?

If the media would stop treating this in a sensationalized way, and we could get some hard facts on what's really happening, that'd be super. For now, it's as much rumor and statistical modeling based on mostly made up numbers.

Dayum getting destroyed

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Apr 1 2020 06:30pm

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whoops.

umm.. seriously the world doesn't social distance for the flu. I am not downplaying the flu, but i will continue that this virus is 10x as bad as stated. Nobody can accurately calculate this virus toll globally with nothing done.

Of course nobody can calculate it, because nobody's assessing relevant information. Who are the victims? What is their health and substance use history? How many people ACTUALLY have it?

20% of all common colds are coronaviruses. Every last one of them has the same symptoms: Fever, Sore Throat, Cough. COVID19 is literally no different. There's no way to accurately test for it without a blood test. Fewer than 1% of people will get a blood test for a cold.

So, how many people have it? We have no idea. Who's at higher risk for lethality? We have no idea, other than older people with prior cardiac and respiratory illness.

This is what you're not understanding. Sensationalized reporting has caused a panic over something that may very well be relatively benign. We don't know though, because individuals such as yourself are prone to panic first, ask for relevant information later.

Also, the only reason nobody social distances for the flu is because we've come to accept that people die. Maybe this new cold should be the same.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Apr 2 2020 12:06am