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Apr 1 2020 12:08pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 1 2020 12:36pm)
The choice without the hindsight we have now was binary. mitigating actions, or herd immunity. it was the talk of worldwide policy for maybe a week.

you're just using hindsight to say "well of course it was only a .01% chance that it would happen because of course no large number of nations would have gone the herd immunity route". whereas at the time the media was presenting a "heres what happens if the world does that".

whether it was ever a chance that all nations would go the herd route or not shouldn't matter, it was partially due to those headlines and forecasts that so many nations started mitigating risks even before their governments made policy. less trips out, less gatherings, hand washings, sanitizing shared spaces, etc. none of these were govt mandated before they were implemented initially.

again, you're so hungry to demonize the media that you can only see the "here's what to expect" context, and not the "here's what could happen if we do nothing so start doing something now" context.

and maybe you're also forgetting that you openly wished for a nation to try full herd immunity. if u were a leader of a country you'd be shoveling boomers into furnaces right now.


Not really. At that time we already shut down schools, travel was plummeting, etc, which is precisely why i got annoyed by the 'if you do nothing here is some scary af number of people that will die' when government was already taking steps for the last week or two.

Early on we did have some countries that wanted to take the herd immunity route like Brazil and UK. I have no problem admitting that i was probably wrong and the social distancing/shutting everything down will lead to less death and maybe herd immunity is not the best course of action for massive countries.

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Not really. At that time we already shut down schools, travel was plummeting, etc, which is precisely why i got annoyed by the 'if you do nothing here is some scary af number of people that will die' when government was already taking steps for the last week or two.

Early on we did have some countries that wanted to take the herd immunity route like Brazil and UK. I have no problem admitting that i was probably wrong and the social distancing/shutting everything down will lead to less death and maybe herd immunity is not the best course of action for massive countries.


to be quite honest with you my brain in the past few weeks has been moving in a wierd combo of sluggish and light speed. so i cant really say with confidence whether the media numbers and pre-mitigation factors did or didnt line up. but mad respect for admitting fault on the herd immunity side. i was curious about it too, just not willing to gamble.
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Apr 1 2020 12:18pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 1 2020 01:44pm)
GAHHHH I CAN'T STOP TOUCHING MY FACE




Cover your fingers with peanut butter or even better... jelly. That will do it. :)





/e Or just change your wardrobe...






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Apr 1 2020 12:49pm
Quote (Jupe @ Apr 1 2020 06:25am)
Confirmed corona chan at the warehouse I work, I hope I get it soon and die 😌


Stay safe, Joop. Wouldn't be the same without you.
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Apr 1 2020 01:42pm
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/
Check the "Daily New Deaths in Italy"
How long at this rate ?...
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Quote (Cannabist @ Apr 1 2020 11:55am)
https://medium.com/@wpegden/a-call-to-honesty-in-pandemic-modeling-5c156686a64b

Thought this was interesting. Are we really just delaying the inevitable?


If the hydrocloroquine/z pack show effectiveness, or any other treatment for that matter, then the social measures will have been worth it.
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Quote (EndlessSky @ 1 Apr 2020 22:08)
If the hydrocloroquine/z pack show effectiveness, or any other treatment for that matter, then the social measures will have been worth it.


Must be taken early else it's useless.
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Apr 1 2020 04:19pm
In my news:

The situation is dramatic in the United States, where 200,000 people are infected with the Covid-19 coronavirus. In this context, the government refused to evacuate the 4,000 soldiers in an aircraft carrier. 200 were tested positive.

Cdt Crozier:

"We are not at war, there's not reason to let these soldiers dying"


The sailors' families are worried, but the Pentagon has not accepted the request to dock and the sailors are trapped on board the aircraft carrier. "We have sent them food and medical supplies," tries to temper Mark Esper, the Minister of Defense.

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Apr 1 2020 04:24pm
Goal of 100 - 240k deaths...who was it in here saying that flu posed more of a threat to Americans a month ago?

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Quote (dro94 @ 1 Apr 2020 16:24)
Goal of 100 - 240k deaths...who was it in here saying that flu posed more of a threat to Americans a month ago?

https://imgur.com/dOrlkS6.jpg



Let's fix those rookie #s

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