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Nov 9 2022 12:44pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 9 Nov 2022 19:37)
yes, that is indeed the joke. its the communist mantra applied to a baby strapped into a seatbelt. so it would more be like using an LGBT slogan in a meme of a silly image.

if the dems didnt see johnson as vulnerable they're idiots. we're still purple as shit here.


Biden won it by 0.63% in a D+4.5 environment back in 2020. Everyone expected 2022 to be at least R+2 (if not much higher), so I kinda get why a race against a long-time incumbent in such an environment seemed futile for the Democrats.
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Biden won it by 0.63% in a D+4.5 environment back in 2020. Everyone expected 2022 to be at least R+2 (if not much higher), so I kinda get why a race against a long-time incumbent in such an environment seemed futile for the Democrats.


sure, but ron johnson's entire schtick to beat Feingold was that he wouldnt become a long time incumbent, that "strength" is his weakness. he legit promised to leave office after 2 terms in his first race. just play ads of him mocking long term senators.
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Nov 9 2022 12:58pm
Quote (Mondain @ 9 Nov 2022 13:16)
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Nov 9 2022 01:10pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 9 2022 10:42am)
my state of wisconsin seems poised to remain rather unchanged.

dems re-won the dem stronghold seats in the state, gop won their elections. Ron Johnson edges out Mandela Barnes, Evers retains governor.

so we remain with a gridlocked state govt where the governor vetoes all state legislation and the state govt overrides his wishes. Ron Johnson gets to continue his career of saying "the jan 6th investigation is a waste of tax payer money and abortion is bad mmmmkay, also we should look into election security but i wont say the election was rigged and jan 6th was not good but not super bad."




Senate...
Yes, but when push comes to shove the cheese heads came through.
Georgia is now a Dec 6th runoff. Alaska is a lock and Nevada is looking pretty RED, with 77% reporting.

House...
Looks like it gonna be RED.

This post was edited by Ghot on Nov 9 2022 01:12pm
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Senate...
Yes, but when push comes to shove the cheese heads came through.
Georgia is now a Dec 6th runoff. Alaska is a lock and Nevada is looking pretty RED, with 77% reporting.

House...
Looks like it gonna be RED.


YUP looks like majority was maintained, and the supermajority that was forecast by some isnt in the cards.
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Nov 9 2022 01:51pm
a split legislature (50/50 senate) and a slight GOP majority in the house is ideal as they may as well just start running for re-election since nothing is gonna get done (which is better for America)

unfortunately we pay them to do nothing but better than paying them to fuck shit up
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a split legislature (50/50 senate) and a slight GOP majority in the house is ideal as they may as well just start running for re-election since nothing is gonna get done (which is better for America)

unfortunately we pay them to do nothing but better than paying them to fuck shit up




Yep, yep.

It's a sad state of affairs that we're happy to pay them to do nothing. But as you mentioned, it's better than the alternative.
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Nov 9 2022 01:56pm
Quote (excellence @ Nov 10 2022 08:51am)
a split legislature (50/50 senate) and a slight GOP majority in the house is ideal as they may as well just start running for re-election since nothing is gonna get done (which is better for America)

unfortunately we pay them to do nothing but better than paying them to fuck shit up


LOL imagine if they re-eleect Trump or Desantis next Jan :o
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Nov 9 2022 01:57pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 9 2022 07:34am)
This. I can rationalize why weak candidates like Oz or Walker didn't get the job done, or that Democrats might eke out a narrow win in races like AZ and NV senate which always tilted their way. Or that underfunded candidates like Tudor Dixon (MI Gov) or Bolduc (NH Sen) couldn't win. What is a lot more eerie, however, is the apparent lack of an enthusiasm gap or turnout edge in favor of Republicans.

Given the political environment (historic midterm trends, Biden's approvals deeply under water, inflation skyhigh, the economy teetering on the brink of recession, crime and the border out of control), this performance is a massive massive disappointment for the GOP, even if they eventually get to 225 seats in the House or so.


Oz was running against a stroke victim who can barely string a sentence together. Although Mastriano was about as Trumpy as they come, and Shapiro was a strong candidate.

I'm super critical of the right-wing and GOP but I can't understand how this result happened. As you laid out, the fundamental factors are so bad for Democrats. It makes no sense.

The hopeful things I see is that more people are willing to split-ticket vote, or write in/leave blank for the serious nutters. This matters... people who pull the trigger for any lunatic with the right letter beside their name are helping to ruin our democracy. Also, maybe this means that more voters care about democracy and are factoring that in when considering insurrectionists? Kari Lake losing would be incredible.

I think a possibility is that a sizable segment of Trump voters will only come out to vote if he's on the ballot. So, Trump's picks this cycle were bad for Republicans, but it's not necessarily the case that him running is political death in 2024, because the midterm electorate is more normal. But I think it's blatantly obvious a DeSantis ticket in 2024 would destroy Biden, or any other Democrat. At this point I'm just hoping American democracy survives, so I'll happily watch a DeSantis inauguration.
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Nov 9 2022 01:58pm
Everything pretty much hangs on Nevada right now...
This is from Reuters...






Arizona...









https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-ELECTION/RESULTS/dwvkdgzdqpm/

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