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Feb 20 2022 04:56pm
I have been following the newsletters from People's party of Canada's Maxime Bernier. I had always thought maybe I should donate to this party. And now, after reading this thread, I have decided I will.

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Feb 20 2022 07:54pm
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I have been following the newsletters from People's party of Canada's Maxime Bernier. I had always thought maybe I should donate to this party. And now, after reading this thread, I have decided I will.

Thanks OP.


A great waste of your money. I'm sure they'll find it quite useless.
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Feb 20 2022 08:10pm
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A great waste of your money. I'm sure they'll find it quite useless.


Why is money useless?

True it's not a huge amount, but it's still money.
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Feb 20 2022 08:28pm
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Why is money useless?

True it's not a huge amount, but it's still money.


Because by supporting Bernier you're really supporting the Liberal party; by splitting the Conservative vote between the marginal but not entirely toothless Bernier party and the well established Conservative party. I'd say the same to anyone wanting to donate to the Green party, that they're just splitting the Liberal vote not actually doing the Green party any good. Bernier's party may one day become a party with a chance at having enough seats to do anything, as might the Green party. But right now and for the immediate future they have 0 chance.
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Feb 20 2022 08:31pm
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Because by supporting Bernier you're really supporting the Liberal party; by splitting the Conservative vote between the marginal but not entirely toothless Bernier party and the well established Conservative party. I'd say the same to anyone wanting to donate to the Green party, that they're just splitting the Liberal vote not actually doing the Green party any good. Bernier's party may one day become a party with a chance at having enough seats to do anything, as might the Green party. But right now and for the immediate future they have 0 chance.


And the alternative is to support the Conservative party, just so that the liberal party won't win.

Nah. It's unpalatable. I would rather support Bernier and have a (very slim) chance of having a real party.
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Feb 20 2022 08:34pm
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And the alternative is to support the Conservative party, just so that the liberal party won't win.

Nah. It's unpalatable. I would rather support Bernier and have a (very slim) chance of having a real party.


Well for your sake I hope your efforts aren't wasted. I certainly can't blame anyone for losing faith with the big 3 parties. I lost mine some time ago and don't believe the new guys have any chance.
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Feb 20 2022 08:37pm
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Well for your sake I hope your efforts aren't wasted. I certainly can't blame anyone for losing faith with the big 3 parties. I lost mine some time ago and don't believe the new guys have any chance.


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Don't become defeated before you have even tried.


I've been around long enough to know trying is not a useful use of resources. Liberals in power fuck up half the country then Conservatives get elected and fuck up the other half while only repairing 10% of the damage the Liberals caused. Then it's the Liberals turn again.
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https://www.cp24.com/news/mp-s-approve-use-of-emergencies-act-in-house-of-commons-vote-1.5789859

As expected, the approval vote for martial law went along party lines, NDP and liberals all voted for it, conservative and bloc against it, 185-151, Trudeau's dictatorial powers are now confirmed
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