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Apr 23 2021 07:11am
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 23 2021 09:07am)
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I know you’re just an arrogant piece of filth and when I do exactly what you say you just ignore and call me a mall cop. Until you reach the sophistication to recognize that 2 days before Bryant was shot by the police another 13 year old was stabbed by another 13 year old and killed because there was no police presence and it’s not getting any attention then you’ll always be the joke you are. Enjoy yourself in being miserable.

You want to wield your sophistication but never look at context, shame on you. However I know you don’t care :)
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Apr 23 2021 07:18am
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I know you’re just an arrogant piece of filth and when I do exactly what you say you just ignore and call me a mall cop. Until you reach the sophistication to recognize that 2 days before Bryant was shot by the police another 13 year old was stabbed by another 13 year old and killed because there was no police presence and it’s not getting any attention then you’ll always be the joke you are. Enjoy yourself in being miserable.

You want to wield your sophistication but never look at context, shame on you. However I know you don’t care :)


i said the shooting was legally justified and not worthy of protesting over.

yet here u are yipping. glad i at least got a growl out of you tho, just wish u read better.
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Apr 23 2021 07:21am
It's interesting. Go to some more right leaning sources, and you can see articles that boil down to "Decisive officer saves black girl's life from knife wielding maniac" where if you go to some more left leaning sources it becomes "Evil Cop guns down motherly 16 year old."

Odd to think they're talking about the same incident. Equally interesting to think that the only inaccuracy would be the "evil". Yes, the girl who died was 16, yes, she was trying to murder another women with a knife. Yes, the cop likely saved that woman's life by shooting the 16 year old.

I'd say it's a good shoot, having watched the full video. The other woman was backed up against a car. She had nowhere to run, no way to get away. The 16 year old was several weight classes above her, and incredibly spry. There was no way she was going to fight her off.

Had the police attempted a tackle, the woman would have been stabbed, and possibly died. Had the police attempted to taze the 16 year old, there's no guarantee the woman would not also have been stabbed. No matter what way I look at it, the cop saved the woman's life.

While it may or may not be a "tragedy" that a 16 year old died, the simple fact that she was 16 does not excuse her attempted murder. Being a minor does not mean you can get away with murder. The officer acted in defense of another person's life, and from a moral standpoint, those protesting/rioting over this case have no leg to stand on. Would it have been preferable that the girl survived the incident and instead got sent to jail for attempted murder and/or assault with a deadly weapon? Yes. Was that possible, given the circumstances? No.
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It's interesting. Go to some more right leaning sources, and you can see articles that boil down to "Decisive officer saves black girl's life from knife wielding maniac" where if you go to some more left leaning sources it becomes "Evil Cop guns down motherly 16 year old."

Odd to think they're talking about the same incident. Equally interesting to think that the only inaccuracy would be the "evil". Yes, the girl who died was 16, yes, she was trying to murder another women with a knife. Yes, the cop likely saved that woman's life by shooting the 16 year old.

I'd say it's a good shoot, having watched the full video. The other woman was backed up against a car. She had nowhere to run, no way to get away. The 16 year old was several weight classes above her, and incredibly spry. There was no way she was going to fight her off.

Had the police attempted a tackle, the woman would have been stabbed, and possibly died. Had the police attempted to taze the 16 year old, there's no guarantee the woman would not also have been stabbed. No matter what way I look at it, the cop saved the woman's life.

While it may or may not be a "tragedy" that a 16 year old died, the simple fact that she was 16 does not excuse her attempted murder. Being a minor does not mean you can get away with murder. The officer acted in defense of another person's life, and from a moral standpoint, those protesting/rioting over this case have no leg to stand on. Would it have been preferable that the girl survived the incident and instead got sent to jail for attempted murder and/or assault with a deadly weapon? Yes. Was that possible, given the circumstances? No.


what i find most funny is the usual suspects online who dont care that a hoodrat died somehow also care that a hoodrat was saved.

only "facts" we're likely waiting on is the context of the altercation that caused the call. early reports mentioned the knife wielding girl was jumped, later reports claimed she was at the home uninvited, there's some foster care elements at play that i dont know yet, and there's the odd bit where the knife wielder pushes over a woman then a man tries to soccer kick that downed woman and NOT the knife wielder. so she wasn't a lone attacker strictly, had some sort of backing from that guy at least it seems.

wont change the legality here, officer is legally justified and the public shouldnt get rioting over this one. Like OJ Simpson said to Lebron on this case, "you cant fight every battle", and he mentioned early media reports showed edited or misleading info. hindsight it was a justified shooting.
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what i find most funny is the usual suspects online who dont care that a hoodrat died somehow also care that a hoodrat was saved.

only "facts" we're likely waiting on is the context of the altercation that caused the call. early reports mentioned the knife wielding girl was jumped, later reports claimed she was at the home uninvited, there's some foster care elements at play that i dont know yet, and there's the odd bit where the knife wielder pushes over a woman then a man tries to soccer kick that downed woman and NOT the knife wielder. so she wasn't a lone attacker strictly, had some sort of backing from that guy at least it seems.

wont change the legality here, officer is legally justified and the public shouldnt get rioting over this one. Like OJ Simpson said to Lebron on this case, "you cant fight every battle", and he mentioned early media reports showed edited or misleading info. hindsight it was a justified shooting.


Regarding the back history, I'm less than concerned, hence why I didn't bring it up. Police were called. When they responded to the call, they arrived at a scene with a knife-wielding suspect who was about to murder another woman. She did not respond to commends to stop, drop the knife, etc.

If you've watched the video, I highly doubt you'd know without being told that she was 16. I don't know if she or the woman she was attempting to murder were "hood rats". I don't really care. What I saw was one woman trying to kill another woman with a knife. When the woman attempting to kill failed to comply with police orders, the police shot her to save the other woman's life. Which part of that is wrong?

Everyone deals with shit in their life. A bad backstory does not justify attempted murder. A bad backstory doesn't make the officer that saved the life of the woman who wasn't attempting murder suddenly evil. The reason it's called a "case" is specifically because each case needs to be dealt with on it's own merits.
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Regarding the back history, I'm less than concerned, hence why I didn't bring it up. Police were called. When they responded to the call, they arrived at a scene with a knife-wielding suspect who was about to murder another woman. She did not respond to commends to stop, drop the knife, etc.

If you've watched the video, I highly doubt you'd know without being told that she was 16. I don't know if she or the woman she was attempting to murder were "hood rats". I don't really care. What I saw was one woman trying to kill another woman with a knife. When the woman attempting to kill failed to comply with police orders, the police shot her to save the other woman's life. Which part of that is wrong?

Everyone deals with shit in their life. A bad backstory does not justify attempted murder. A bad backstory doesn't make the officer that saved the life of the woman who wasn't attempting murder suddenly evil. The reason it's called a "case" is specifically because each case needs to be dealt with on it's own merits.


you're strawmanning me as if i said it isn't justified.

all im saying is we have a picture with the center in focus, and that's enough for a legal call. but knowing what's on the fringe of the frame might be interesting, not that it will change the focus of the shot.

edit: "lets wait for the facts" is a constant narrative. im saying the facts we're still waiting on are interesting, even if they wont change the situation in terms of charges and/or protest.

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you're strawmanning me as if i said it isn't justified.

all im saying is we have a picture with the center in focus, and that's enough for a legal call. but knowing what's on the fringe of the frame might be interesting, not that it will change the focus of the shot.


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what i find most funny is the usual suspects online who dont care that a hoodrat died somehow also care that a hoodrat was saved.


You're attempting to throw accusations around that are without merit. Stop politicking long enough to focus on the merits of the case.

Was the officer in the wrong? No. Can the case turn out that the woman whose life was saved was also in the wrong? Sure! Can it turn out that there are many charges filed over this case? Absolutely!

However, when it comes to protests and riots, those fall squarely on the shoulders of the actions of the police. And in this case, based on the shoulder cam footage shown, there was nothing else the police COULD do. If they had acted different, there'd still be a dead black woman. Just a different dead black woman.

Further details would be insightful, but NOT when it comes to the validity of police actions in this case.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Apr 23 2021 07:40am
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You're attempting to throw accusations around that are without merit. Stop politicking long enough to focus on the merits of the case.

Was the officer in the wrong? No. Can the case turn out that the woman whose life was saved was also in the wrong? Sure! Can it turn out that there are many charges filed over this case? Absolutely!

However, when it comes to protests and riots, those fall squarely on the shoulders of the actions of the police. And in this case, based on the shoulder cam footage shown, there was nothing else the police COULD do. If they had acted different, there'd still be a dead black woman. Just a different dead black woman.

Further details would be insightful, but NOT when it comes to the validity of police actions in this case.


Bobb, that's exactly what im saying. Mix in a bit of coffee bud.
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Apr 23 2021 07:50am
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Bobb, that's exactly what im saying. Mix in a bit of coffee bud.


That's not what you said. You directly responded to me personally with:

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what i find most funny is the usual suspects online who dont care that a hoodrat died somehow also care that a hoodrat was saved.


You're trying to racialize a post that was specifically about police actions in this case, and how absolutely stupid protests/riots in regards to the case are.

Nobody gives two shits less that you're a filthy racist who believes that just because both women were black that you think they're "hood rats". Nobody gives two shits less that you want to project your own inadequacies on everyone else.

This topic is about RIOTS. Do you understand? Black people knifing each other doesn't cause riots. Police shooting black people, regardless of reason, causes riots. The ability to analyze the case based on the video evidence, and not edited video designed to spark riots, is kind of helpful, don't you think?

I don't need to "mix" coffee in my coffee. Perhaps you should take your own advice. In the meantime, read the title of the topic you're in.
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