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Oct 17 2020 09:00am
https://www.thedailybeast.com/rudy-giuliani-says-theres-only-5050-chance-i-worked-with-a-russian-spy-to-dig-dirt-on-bidens

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Sure, the U.S. Treasury Department may have declared one of his former associates—Ukrainian parliamentarian Andrii Derkach, who worked with Giuliani on his hunt for dirt on the Bidens—to be an “active Russian agent.” But that’s some Deep State talk, he added. “The chance that Derkach is a Russian spy is no better than 50/50.”

“My guess is that George Soros is behind this counter-offensive… because he wants to create a socialist country,” Giuliani baselessly alleged. “He’d like to see us collapse and see us taken over by the international... whatever.” Giuliani said that Derkach’s eventual sanctioning was the result of “an intelligence ploy to try to create problems for Trump—because Derkach could probably bury Obama.”


America can choose to have a president whose lawyer isn't a lunatic.

This post was edited by IceMage on Oct 17 2020 09:01am
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Oct 17 2020 09:11am
Quote (thundercock @ 17 Oct 2020 01:33)
Something isn't adding up. Apparently, the FBI is investigating whether or not this is a foreign intelligence operation. If the FBI was in custody of the hard drives, why would they need to make this determination? Was there no subpoena?

the fbi also started an investigation into scully’s twitter account to see if ‘russia’ hacked it too. of course he was lying but they seem to investigate everything under the guise of ‘russia’

Quote (Goomshill @ 17 Oct 2020 10:30)
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-china-email-source-verifies

Pretty important development here:
  • An independent source, one of the people in the email chain leaked, confirms it is real.
  • Multiple sources involved in the email chain confirm that "the big guy" in the remuneration package breakdown was a reference to Joe Biden, as were other instances of "the big guy"


So to be clear: this plan called for Joe Biden to be paid directly by the corrupt Chinese energy firm
The Bidens were given a 30% cut of the CEFC, with 20% going to Hunter Biden and 10% going to Joe Biden personally.

this is a separate deal than the Burisma one- this was another email chain. The Chinese firm was set up with multiple businessmen who have since been either charged with corruption or mysteriously disappeared by the Chinese central government. It was a deal with the CEFC, who's chairman was accused of corruption by the Chinese and disappeared in early 2018. The CEFC itself then went bankrupt and was dissolved. The deal would pay Biden $10 million "for introductions alone", and so presumably Joe Biden was to be paid $5 million. Another top lieutenant from the Chinese firm personally agreed to pay Hunter Biden $1 million in one of the emails, before he was convicted of paying millions in bribes to African government officials for oil rights.

man first ukraine now china who else.

next we will see the harris/biden campaign blaming ‘russia’ for the laptops. wait that’s already happening :lol:

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Sounds like Hunter is a real self-starter. He doesn't need dad to hold his hand through business deals like beta cuck Trump Jr.

Also kind of an interesting contrast that we see stories like this, and we're able to go check Joe Biden's tax returns.


We already know the money from this deal went to a shell corporation registered by Hunter Biden, and even the tentative remuneration agreement said the 10% earmarked for Joe Biden would be held by Hunter Biden. I haven't been able to piece together enough of this to figure out if there's evidence the money was actually paid out or how much- this obvious bribery happened contemporaneously with those chinese businessmen being arrested and disappeared for bribery, and the chinese company ceased to exist. Which doesn't make the 3-year deal possible.

What we do know from the receipts- the senate report released last month by Grassley- that the holding company used by the Bidens and owned by Hunter, "Hudson West III", paid out more than $100,000 in credit card expenses by Hunter Biden, James Biden (Joe's bro) & Sara Biden (Jame's wife), which included purchases of airline tickets, macbooks/phones, hotels, restaurants, pharmacies, etc.

one of the emails in the chinese dealmaking chain shows a handdrawn diagram of Hudson West III's ownership, showing it 50% owned by Hunter Biden and 50% by an unidentified "chairman", who is presumably Ye Jianming based on the context in the email chain- Ye is the same guy who was arrested by the Chinese in 2018 and disappeared and hasn't been seen since.
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Oct 17 2020 09:18am
"ignore this verifiable evidence showing a money trail of the Bidens looting Ukraine and being bribed by the Chinese, and instead listen to our complete speculation that the Russians are somehow behind the emails~!"

How does it even make sense? Do they think a Russian agent somehow got ahold of one of Hunter Biden's laptops and took it to the repair store and dropped it off there?
Did the Russians actually send agents into the US to sneak into Hunter Biden's home and snag his old laptops?
And what was their plan if the agents got caught?
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Oct 17 2020 10:21am
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 17 2020 11:18am)
"ignore this verifiable evidence showing a money trail of the Bidens looting Ukraine and being bribed by the Chinese, and instead listen to our complete speculation that the Russians are somehow behind the emails~!"

How does it even make sense? Do they think a Russian agent somehow got ahold of one of Hunter Biden's laptops and took it to the repair store and dropped it off there?
Did the Russians actually send agents into the US to sneak into Hunter Biden's home and snag his old laptops?
And what was their plan if the agents got caught?


They're like an angry ex boyfriend that got caught cheating and got kicked to the curb.

"Why did you look at my cell phone??????! Bitch!"

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Oct 17 2020 10:48am
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 17 2020 11:18am)
"ignore this verifiable evidence showing a money trail of the Bidens looting Ukraine and being bribed by the Chinese, and instead listen to our complete speculation that the Russians are somehow behind the emails~!"

How does it even make sense? Do they think a Russian agent somehow got ahold of one of Hunter Biden's laptops and took it to the repair store and dropped it off there?
Did the Russians actually send agents into the US to sneak into Hunter Biden's home and snag his old laptops?
And what was their plan if the agents got caught?


Saying the word Russia and tying it to anything is like catnip. People just immediately lose all rational thought and cognition. It's the gift horse that keeps on giving when Democrats do anything that people should frown on.

Remember when the DNC was scheming to screw Bernie out of the nomination and their emails were exposed in 2016 and when the story broke like a day later it was spun as "Russian interference" by most mainstream media? I remember.
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Oct 17 2020 11:35am
hunter biden and his laptops are now 'russian'. lmfao!!!
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Oct 17 2020 01:11pm
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/16/exclusive-this-is-china-inc-emails-reveal-hunter-bidens-associates-helped-communist-aligned-chinese-elites-secure-white-house-meetings/

Breitbart got more Hunter Biden emails
These are completely unrelated to the current cache
These emails were provided to Breitbart with password access, willingly, by Hunter Biden's former business partner Bevan Cooney

These emails reveal that Hunter Biden arranged a white house visit by top communist party officials under the guise of being foreign investors, and that they held a secret off-the-books meeting with Joe Biden personally
The chinese communist party elite had been trying to get direct access to the president/vice president for months but the administration declined repeatedly
It was Hunter Biden- through his shell corporation business associates- who set up a meeting directly with Joe Biden and then hid it from the white house logs.

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Before contacting Hunter Biden’s associates, the CEC had been trying to get meetings with top Obama-Biden administration officials to no avail. “From the DC side as you will see below they [CEC] have written letters to several members of the administration and others and have so far not had a strong reaction.”

“This is China Inc,” wrote Khashoggi in the email, referring to the delegation of Chinese billionaires.

“Biggest priority for the CEC group is to see the White House, and have a senior US politician, or senior member of Obama’s administration, give them a tour… If your friend in DC can help, we would be extremely grateful,” Khashoggi emphasized.

Hunter Biden and Devon Archer apparently delivered for the Chinese Communist Party-connected industrial elites within ten days .


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The Obama-Biden Administration archives reveal that this Chinese delegation did indeed visit the White House on November 14, 2011, and enjoyed high-level access. The delegation included approximately thirty members, according to White House visitor logs. But those records also obscure perhaps the most important item for the Chinese delegation: a meeting with Vice President Joe Biden himself.

The visitor logs list Jeff Zients, the deputy director of Obama’s Office of Management and Budget (OMB), as the host of the CEC delegation. Obama had tasked Zients with restructuring and ultimately consolidating the various export-import agencies under the Commerce Department—an effort in which the Chinese delegation would have a keen interest.

A trip itinerary posted by the CEC also confirms the delegation met with Obama’s then-recently-confirmed Commerce Secretary John Bryson.

Curiously, the Obama-Biden visitor logs do not mention any meeting with Vice President Joe Biden. But the Vice President’s off-the-books meeting was revealed by one of the core founders of the CEC. In an obscure document listing the CEC members’ biographies, CEC Secretary General Maggie Cheng alleges that she facilitated the CEC delegation meetings in Washington in 2011 and boasts of the Washington establishment figures that CEC met with. The first name she dropped was that of Vice President Joe Biden.


So on one hand we've got emails proving Hunter Biden was seeking to be paid millions by the corrupt Chinese businessmen and communist party members "for introductions alone", and routing it through shell corporations- and Joe Biden was getting a cut.
And on the other hand, we've got emails proving Hunter Biden was arranging face-to-face secret meetings between corrupt Chinese businessmen and community party members, with Joe Biden
These are two separate email chains and stories, and they are 4 years removed, the former from 2011, the latter from 2015.

Dunno how much more smoking gun it could get. But as I already joked, it could be evidence that a corrupt chinese businessman known for bribing government officials tried to literally hand an $80,000 diamond to Hunter Biden in a hotel room during that same time
so yeah
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Oct 17 2020 01:24pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 17 2020 03:11pm)
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/16/exclusive-this-is-china-inc-emails-reveal-hunter-bidens-associates-helped-communist-aligned-chinese-elites-secure-white-house-meetings/

Breitbart got more Hunter Biden emails
These are completely unrelated to the current cache
These emails were provided to Breitbart with password access, willingly, by Hunter Biden's former business partner Bevan Cooney

These emails reveal that Hunter Biden arranged a white house visit by top communist party officials under the guise of being foreign investors, and that they held a secret off-the-books meeting with Joe Biden personally
The chinese communist party elite had been trying to get direct access to the president/vice president for months but the administration declined repeatedly
It was Hunter Biden- through his shell corporation business associates- who set up a meeting directly with Joe Biden and then hid it from the white house logs.





So on one hand we've got emails proving Hunter Biden was seeking to be paid millions by the corrupt Chinese businessmen and communist party members "for introductions alone", and routing it through shell corporations- and Joe Biden was getting a cut.
And on the other hand, we've got emails proving Hunter Biden was arranging face-to-face secret meetings between corrupt Chinese businessmen and community party members, with Joe Biden
These are two separate email chains and stories, and they are 4 years removed, the former from 2011, the latter from 2015.

Dunno how much more smoking gun it could get. But as I already joked, it could be evidence that a corrupt chinese businessman known for bribing government officials tried to literally hand an $80,000 diamond to Hunter Biden in a hotel room during that same time
so yeah


I wonder how much more is out there 🤔
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