look at you selling out for regulations and standards in the workplace
commie

As long as you dont tell me my penis is a vagina Ill consider supporting their ideas.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Aug 29 2020 11:59am

Gonna give some context here

1. Viral vectors are used all over biology as a matter of routine experimentation. I use them probably monthly to generate cell lines that express nuclear dye, or to knock down enzymes that have signaling functions. All of the cell lines I use are human-derived. As far as I know there haven't been any studies that show exposure to these viruses increases your chance of developing cancer.

2. Technically, any time you have a viral infection you will have an increased chance of developing cancer. If the virus inserts it's genome into your cell at a place that breaks a growth-regulating gene, that has a chance of developing into cancer. However, if you have an in-tact immune system your body will destroy the infected cell. You probably get infected with thousands of viruses a day, but your body is great at cleaning them up. There's a reason why really infectious viruses are somewhat rare, we have a whole section of our immune system dedicated just to destroying virus-infected cells.

3. The only way your kids will get cancer from a virus is if it specifically infects your egg or sperm cells. Nothing else is inherited. There is currently no evidence that working with these viruses leads to sterility or inherited cancers.

4. It's absolutely bullshit to say that "the same viral mutations probably caused Covid in China." This is pure bullshit. The whole "virus lab right next to the wet market" conspiracy has been debunked six ways to Sunday.

5. The ban under Bush was because a child with a terminal cancer received an experimental treatment as a last resort and started producing ammonia, which made his blood basic and killed him. The moratorium on viral vector research was definitely an over-reaction.

6. New employees are cheap. That's why they hire them. Not because of some conspiracy about health risks.

And lastly

7. Pharma companies are companies. They are just as evil as any other, and fundamentally interested in money above all else. If that means hiding risks from workers, that's what they will do. If that means hiding risks from patients, that's what they will do. If that means firing an employee who wants to blow the whistle on a harmful practice, that's what they will do. I'm providing context, not saying pharma companies are saints.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Aug 29 2020 02:23pm

You were warned

It will be after I’m done docking it.

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I'm about to get a promotion at my current work. The lab manager is leaving and I'm the only one in the lab that can take his position, and I'm gonna try to negotiate my wife onto the clinical team as part of the deal.

So I'd be a lab manager and she'd be a clinical research coordinator.

If we could do that we'll be somewhere around 85th percentile of household income in our city, which would be very comfortable living.

So I'm not really concerned about career anymore.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Aug 29 2020 08:29pm

what good would that have done udelhoven

That's nice, but there is usually a reason for the salary.

Just imagine the perspective of your supervisor.

Why does he sit behind a desk while he puts you in the same room as viruses and such with life changing effects? Lentiviral vector have a wide host cell range.

He sits behind the desk because the grad students kicked him out of the lab and he has clinical and patient trial responsibilities. Hes an MD PHD, hes done all these experiments more times than he can count because thats how you get a PhD.

I'm not saying these viruses dont cause cancer or whatever, but theyre a routine part of biology research, so it would be weird if they did and nobody noticed it yet since one of the biggest users are literally cancer research labs.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Sep 4 2020 09:18am