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Mar 5 2018 04:39pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 5 Mar 2018 23:25)
the situation in Italia is chaotic but not that much anti-european.
What could happend is changes in migration laws / european decision to reduce it alot
Macron said it*, merkel will only be forced to be agree, and italia had the reaction we are seeing now.


merkel will never agree to anything that will stop her precious rocket scientists from coming, she made that rather clear herself
if macron and italy could simply present her with cold, hard facts like the balkan countries did...we will be grateful
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Mar 5 2018 04:53pm
Quote (ampoo @ 5 Mar 2018 23:39)
merkel will never agree to anything that will stop her precious rocket scientists from coming


Merkel admitted, finally, that she gone too far.
Your "irony" isnt contributing... Because: too bad ! Europe could manage to change its policy without swapping into a fart-right populism crap ? :rofl:
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Mar 5 2018 04:59pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 5 Mar 2018 23:53)
Merkel admitted, finally, that she gone too far.
Your "irony" isnt contributing... Because: too bad ! Europe could manage to change its policy without swapping into a fart-right populism crap ? :rofl:


you can read, cant you? merkel didnt admit a thing, i could drown you in statements that she made in live television, that she "has no idea, what she should have done differently" and the asylum right (that doesnt even exist, but reading is overrated) for every idiot that shows up here will not be touched under any circumstance
you might try to respond to my argument instead of attacking me just for the sake of doing it

but at least italy and macron have to their senses and see now that the thing you call "right populism crap" is just sanity
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Mar 5 2018 06:33pm
Quote (ampoo @ 5 Mar 2018 23:59)
you can read, cant you? merkel didnt admit a thing, i could drown you in statements that she made in live television, that she "has no idea, what she should have done differently" and the asylum right (that doesnt even exist, but reading is overrated) for every idiot that shows up here will not be touched under any circumstance
you might try to respond to my argument instead of attacking me just for the sake of doing it
but at least italy and macron have to their senses and see now that the thing you call "right populism crap" is just sanity


you know where you can put your "precious rocket scientists"
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Mar 6 2018 12:24pm


Macron's plan for packed French jails: more cells, fewer inmates

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-security/macrons-plan-for-packed-french-jails-more-cells-fewer-inmates-idUSKCN1GI1VM

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PARIS (Reuters) - France will build thousands of new jail cells and use electronic tagging more widely under reforms being pursued by President Emmanuel Macron to remedy some of the worst prison overcrowding in Europe and protests by wardens over violence.
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Mar 6 2018 05:52pm


Centre-right: 263 seats
M5S: 223 seats
Centre-left: 118 seats
LeU: 14 seats

It seems like there are 4 minimally realistic possibilities with these results, but all of them are far from happening atm:

1. Lega ditches the centre-right coallition and joins M5S. Both parties are eurosceptic, and it's the most simple solution based on pure parliamentary arithmetics, but it's unlikely because both Lega Nord and M5S want to lead the government, and because the leader of Lega has already said they want to remain in the centre-right coallition. Also, Lega Nord is a pretty racist/classist party based on the north of Italy, that hates the souther half and considers them to be uneducated lazy bums, while M5S got most of their votes in the southern half of the country (so it wouldn't be a good strategic move to ignore their interests).

2. The centre-left coallition supports M5S. This was unthinkable since Renzi, leader of the main centre-left party (PD) was adamantly against siding with any sort of populists, but now Renzi is gone, so it could happen. It's still very complicated, as the majority of people in the centre-left coallition have a strong pro-EU sentiment.

3. Either the centre-right coallition or M5S recruit MPs from other parties, until they have enough for a majority. While this might sound bizarre in most countries, it is not the case in Italy, where switching sides is common practice. During the last cycle, a whopping 36% of members of either congress or the senate switched party.

4. The centre-left and centre-right coallitions form a short lived great coallition with the sole purpose of changing the electoral law, in order to prevent such a hung parliament from happening again. I really don't see this happening, but could be some last resort scenario.


Quote (Leevee @ 5 Mar 2018 17:19)
#itexit?


Nah. Even though M5S is eurosceptic, they are not "anti-EU". They are anti-establishment and advocate for transparent direct democracy, so they hate all the bureaucracy and opaqueness involved in the EU, as well as the EU's immigration and refugee policies. They dislike a lot of things in the EU, but they aren't a "leave party". Lega on the other hand is a different story. But over all, the population would likely not support an itexit.
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Mar 7 2018 05:37am
yeah MS5 is "pro universal income" aka sad leftists, and sad dirty little leftists do NOT reject EU, but can eventually criticize it.
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Mar 7 2018 07:29am
They should have a referendum to decide on membership. Let's get #itexit trending
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Quote (dro94 @ Mar 7 2018 02:29pm)
They should have a referendum to decide on membership. Let's get #itexit trending


That makes no sense, there are no Italians here.
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Mar 7 2018 07:56am
Quote (Knoppie @ 7 Mar 2018 14:34)
That makes no sense, there are no Italians here.


dro94 want to pull others countries in the same crap than his own :o
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