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Dec 1 2012 03:14pm
Quote (mike14e @ 1 Dec 2012 20:57)
Don't bother he doesn't go that deep. I've tried questions like this, he doesnt answer :/


You really have troubles to read, I answered that question several times already.
I will answer one more time anyway.
Reality is that which is (the truth and reality is same thing).
It can be experienced (detected as you said) through your 5 life sense.
For exemple you can sense the rain or the heat of the sun... you can taste things etc.
Everything that is not thoughts, emotions or dreams produced by your mind is reality.
@Widow : one more post that proves how closed-minded you are... thanks I already know that, you do not have to post more proofs here.

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You really have troubles to read, I answered that question several times already.
I will answer one more time anyway.
Reality is that which is (the truth and reality is same thing).
It can be experienced (detected as you said) through your 5 life sense.
For exemple you can sense the rain or the heat of the sun... you can taste things etc.
Everything that is not thoughts, emotions or dreams produced by your mind is reality.
@Widow : one more post that proves how closed-minded you are... thanks I already know that, you do not have to post more proofs here.


And how do you differentiate between what is real and what is produced by your mind? You can induce artificial sensory input through electrical impulses to the brain.
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Dec 1 2012 06:20pm
Bard, as it is explained in this video : "To see the cage is to leave it"



That means that once you understand you are more than your mind, and that the thoughts, emotions and dreams produced by your mind are not reality, your mind is no longer controling/missleading you and then you can see the difference between mind made and reality.
You just have to accept this simple fact... it is not easy to accept, because you have to admit you were wrong (living a lie)... but it is worth it, the price is freedom and eventually heaven.
I found this revelent quote yesterday : "The mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work unless it's open."
Also these today : "Without awareness, we are not truly alive." James F. T. Bugental
"The real life is the life we do not lead." Oscar Wilde
This quote from Oscar Wilde says much.
To open your mind, you have to understand you are not in control.
Physical life is balanced... AB = -AB
You can see the manifestation of the balance in everyday life.
Just look at your past and you will see that good luck and bad luck are balanced...
There are plenty of exemple I could add about how physical life is balanced if you need.
That said, we are more than our physical balanced bodies... our spirits are not part of the physical world so they are not subject to the physical laws.
All that is well explained in The Present and The Present (with religion), just check it for yourself.
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Bard, as it is explained in this video : "To see the cage is to leave it"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp6umQT58A

That means that once you understand you are more than your mind, and that the thoughts, emotions and dreams produced by your mind are not reality, your mind is no longer controling/missleading you and then you can see the difference between mind made and reality.
You just have to accept this simple fact... it is not easy to accept, because you have to admit you were wrong (living a lie)... but it is worth it, the price is freedom and eventually heaven.
I found this revelent quote yesterday : "The mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work unless it's open."
Also these today : "Without awareness, we are not truly alive." James F. T. Bugental
"The real life is the life we do not lead." Oscar Wilde
This quote from Oscar Wilde says much.
To open your mind, you have to understand you are not in control.
Physical life is balanced... AB = -AB
You can see the manifestation of the balance in everyday life.
Just look at your past and you will see that good luck and bad luck are balanced...
There are plenty of exemple I could add about how physical life is balanced if you need.
That said, we are more than our physical balanced bodies... our spirits are not part of the physical world so they are not subject to the physical laws.
All that is well explained in The Present and The Present (with religion), just check it for yourself.


This has nothing to do with what I said.

You said

Quote (Eti_fr @ Dec 1 2012 02:14pm)
Reality is that which is (the truth and reality is same thing).
It can be experienced (detected as you said) through your 5 life sense.


And I asked "What happens if your senses report inaccurately (like when scientists artificially induce stimuli to animals in a lab)?"
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Quote (Eti_fr @ Dec 1 2012 05:20pm)

Physical life is balanced... AB = -AB

divide by sides by AB
AB/AB = -AB/AB , AB != 0
1 = -1
yeah, uhh that's a problem.


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divide by sides by AB
AB/AB = -AB/AB , AB != 0
1 = -1
yeah, uhh that's a problem.


I think he was trying to reference Newton's Third.
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I think he was trying to reference Newton's Third.


heh maybe your right, where did you learn to read 'retard'? (as in the language of retards)
Perhaps this would have been better:
A = -B
while vague as hell, at least it doesn't lead to an immediate contradiction!

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heh maybe your right, where did you learn to read 'retard'?
Perhaps this would have been better:
A = -B
while vague as hell, at least it doesn't lead to an immediate contradiction!


I have a little brother.
And yes, he wrote it horribly wrong. But when reading users such as Eti, you have to give them a little bit of leeway.
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Dec 1 2012 10:43pm
Quote (BardOfXiix @ Dec 1 2012 05:04pm)
This has nothing to do with what I said.

You said

And I asked "What happens if your senses report inaccurately (like when scientists artificially induce stimuli to animals in a lab)?"


I don't know what page that second quote is from, since it's a few pages back and I'm not re-reading this thread.

I'd just like to point out we have more than 5 senses, such as the ability to tell time. It's clear wherever that came from obviously hasn't done any research and is relying on anectdotes.
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Quote (sylvannos @ Dec 1 2012 09:43pm)
I don't know what page that second quote is from, since it's a few pages back and I'm not re-reading this thread.

I'd just like to point out we have more than 5 senses, such as the ability to tell time. It's clear wherever that came from obviously hasn't done any research and is relying on anectdotes.


The vestibular sense is sort of a 6th sense. Also, the second quote is the first one on this page, just cropped.
But the number of senses is beside the point, really.
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