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Oct 8 2023 06:49pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 8 2023 05:15pm)
It would be one thing if this dry slither of land was the only place these Arabs can live but literally there are tens of thousands of square miles all around. Sinai peninsula, Jordan, Syria, where they'd literally be moving a spitting distance from where they currently live and separate from the Jews and live without an issue.


Would you want to give up your homeland where your ancestors had lived for hundreds of years just because there are other places you could move to?
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 9 2023 02:43am)
There are remnants of structures in Jerusalem today that were literally laid by king Solomon, an ancient Jewish king 3000 years ago. Can you tell which point in history should we begin our analysis of 'ownership' and why?

edit: got my history wrong somewhat, not 3000 but 2500*


stupid people just "start history" when it suits them
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Oct 8 2023 06:51pm
Quote (LL0RT @ Oct 8 2023 08:48pm)
can you tell me when in human history it was okay to gas mothers and children praying and then execute them with a military?


Irrelevant question. You want to frame the argument of ownership based on who was there first, but want to omit most history?

Quote (JessiWan @ Oct 8 2023 08:49pm)
Would you want to give up your homeland where your ancestors had lived for hundreds of years just because there are other places you could move to?



No but life isn't fair, never has been. Sometimes your people domineer others for centuries and force the locals out, just because centuries later the descendants of those people come back doesn't make the latter act unfair.



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Oct 8 2023 07:06pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Oct 8 2023 04:41pm)
maybe it has something to do with the religion of peace


You think Judaism is better?

Communism is the product of Jewish minds, and it killed hundreds of millions of people. As violent as Islam is, and I admit it's pretty violent, it doesn't compare to the amount of blood on Jewish hands.

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i mean the palestinians never owned that land,


So who owned that land?

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they sucked ottoman dick for centuries


You are a POS if you describe people like that.

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but suddenly there is a problem when people with another religion show up ^_^


It's not as simple as that. I believe that Israelis have been aggressively pushing for territory expansion. And I am pretty sure they have done some very nasty things to warrant the kind of hate that they get. You don't seriously think that Israelis are angels?

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btw, i would be mad as well, "palestine" has been a patch of dirt since the roman days and these fucking jews turn it into a modern and wealthy country in like two generations :rofl:


I don't get how you can trivialize people's grievances like that. You really are a despicable person. You really think the reason they attack Israel with the ferocity that they do, is because they are jealous of their achievements? Does that shit even make sense to you?

Btw, your precious Jews are able to create a thriving country largely because of aid in the form of US tax money. You are being exploited like a chump.



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Oct 8 2023 07:07pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 8 2023 05:51pm)

No but life isn't fair, never has been. Sometimes your people domineer others for centuries and force the locals out, just because centuries later the descendants of those people come back doesn't make the latter act unfair.


Oh I see. Your ancestors forced our ancestors out, so now we are going to force you out.

Two wrongs DO make a right!
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Oct 8 2023 07:10pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 8 2023 05:51pm)
Irrelevant question. You want to frame the argument of ownership based on who was there first, but want to omit most history?


So basically, you know that it's wrong to gas mothers and praying children, but you don't want to admit that, so you try to dodge the question.

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Oct 8 2023 07:12pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Oct 8 2023 09:26pm)
i dont see where your argument, you are just throwing random shit at me
uh huh, well good luck with your crusade or w.e.

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Oct 8 2023 07:13pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Oct 8 2023 09:10pm)
So basically, you know that it's wrong to gas mothers and praying children, but you don't want to admit that, so you try to dodge the question by insisting that he talk about something you feel more comfortable talking about, such as history.


It's irrelevant because it has nothing to do with ownership, it's a cheap appeal to emotion, a common logical fallacy often employed by people who frankly aren't very good at debating.
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Oct 8 2023 07:17pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Oct 9 2023 03:06am)
You think Judaism is better?

Communism is the product of Jewish minds, and it killed hundreds of millions of people. As violent as Islam is, and I admit it's pretty violent, it doesn't compare to the amount of blood on Jewish hands.



So who owned that land?



You are a POS if you describe people like that.



It's not as simple as that. I believe that Israelis have been aggressively pushing for territory expansion. And I am pretty sure they have done some very nasty things to warrant the kind of hate that they get. You don't seriously think that Israelis are angels?



I don't get how you can trivialize people's grievances like that. You really are a despicable person. You really think the reason they attack Israel with the ferocity that they do, is because they are jealous of their achievements? Does that shit even make sense to you?

Btw, your precious Jews are able to create a thriving country largely because of aid in the form of US tax money. You are being exploited like a chump.


holy mother of all triggers lmao :rofl:

i am just calling it what it is, its a war of religion and nothing else, islam does not tolerate anyone else

palestinians wouldnt have done shit if a bunch of muslims arrived and their movement is only a thing, because antisemite trash in the west and the oil states throw some money at them

yes, the cavedwellers are jealous as fuck watching better people turning dirt into a modern country

and now they act like something was taken from them, when (as other people mentioned) they stole "their land" themselves

gtfo with your hamas propaganda

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Oct 8 2023 07:21pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 8 2023 06:13pm)
It's irrelevant because it has nothing to do with ownership, it's a cheap appeal to emotion, a common logical fallacy often employed by people who frankly aren't very good at debating.


It's not a cheap appeal to emotion, you are putting a negative spin on it.

When news reports atrocities anywhere, sometimes they show pictures, other times they merely narrate events that their reporters saw. Is that also an appeal to emotions? I guess we are never allowed to talk about human tragedies because to you that is a logical fallacy.
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