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Feb 25 2023 07:55pm
Quote (Superman @ Feb 25 2023 05:48pm)
Justice is swift or it's not justice. The appeals process is a people problem and should be removed.

Many people have been saved from state execution by the appeal process, because they weren't guilty.

The American (and broader liberal) justice system is heavily slanted toward prosecutorial discretion. They have broad ability to 'solve' a case by sentencing some Black guy to death.

Americans don't care, though, because they view the death penalty as a form of racial supremacy and as a form of communal healing. For both of those things, it doesn't ultimately matter that a false conviction lets the real killer get away.

Which is good, since most serial killers are white people.
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Feb 25 2023 07:56pm
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Many people have been saved from state execution by the appeal process, because they weren't guilty.

The American (and broader liberal) justice system is heavily slanted toward prosecutorial discretion. They have broad ability to 'solve' a case by sentencing some Black guy to death.

Americans don't care, though, because they view the death penalty as a form ofracial supremacy and as a form of communal healing. For both of those things, it doesn't ultimately matter that a false conviction lets the real killer get away.

Which is good, since most serial killers are white people.

I think people simply make mistakes and technology advances. Reported for racism.

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Feb 25 2023 07:58pm
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Reported for racism.

Cry harder, it's a fact.

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Cry harder, it's a fact.

https://i.imgur.com/0jTCedb.png


Did you read the rest of what he said?
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Feb 25 2023 08:04pm
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Did you read the rest of what he said?

He? Who?

Americans love the death penalty only because they aren't allowed to lynch Black people in the street anymore.
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Feb 25 2023 08:08pm
Quote (kusotarre1 @ Feb 25 2023 07:04pm)
He? Who?

Americans love the death penalty only because they aren't allowed to lynch Black people in the street anymore.


100% of serial killers are people... Obviously the user I quoted...

I'm just going to log off before I go off on a tangent about how people are people and BLM is racist.
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Feb 25 2023 08:14pm
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100% of serial killers are people... Obviously the user I quoted...

I'm just going to log off before I go off on a tangent about how people are people and BLM is racist.

LOL, I said "most", not "100%". P sure '82%' fits under any definition of 'most'.

Yeah, log off before you get drunk enough to really pop off and tell us what you think about Black people while under the affects of the woozy truth serum.

And since you mentioned BLM in a thread about the death penalty, I will point out that the US police have almost certainly executed several leaders of early, pre-liberalized BLM in Ferguson.

https://www.blackagendareport.com/fight-justice-takes-its-toll-ferguson-activists

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In 2017, Edward Crawford, who became famous after a picture of him throwing a tear gas canister went viral, was found dead in a car. Two women who were with him at the time said he shot himself, and his death was classified as a “non-criminal incident,” according to St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department spokeswoman Michelle Woodling. Then, in September 2016, one of the most outspoken activists of the Ferguson protests, Darren Seals, was found shot to death in a burned car. A few weeks before his death, Seals said in a Facebook Live post that he had been pulled over by police officers who had warned him to be careful about making anti-Trump posts online. No assailant has been found, and when asked about the progress of the investigation, Shawn McGuire, a spokesman for the St. Louis County police department, told me: “No update as of right now, but it’s still an active investigation.” The Ferguson activist community doesn’t believe the police have carried out a thorough investigation. Pictures posted on Twitter claimed to show that bullet casings were found at the crime scene after the police had visited, suggesting that they had missed potentially important evidence.

Jamala Rogers is a long-time organizer and a founder of the Organization for Black Struggle, where she serves as executive director. She lived through the violent repression against activists of the COINTELPRO era. “It seems like for a lot of young people, the Darren Seals case put a chill in them,” she said. “The authorities were basically saying it’s an open investigation, but there’s no real investigation going on from what we can see.”

This understates it. Darren Seals was found shot in the head in his car, wallet not stolen, then the car was set on fire.

He was killed by cops.

This post was edited by kusotarre1 on Feb 25 2023 08:15pm
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Feb 25 2023 09:13pm
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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/florida-executes-donald-dillbeck_n_63f7c0ace4b04ff5b488d4cf?d_id=5525496&ncid_tag=tweetlnkushpmg00000016&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=us_politics

Honestly I think we have too many people and society is far too lenient on sentencing. Punishment should be disproportionate to the crime to encourage better behavior.

What do our fellow pardians think?


Putting someone in jail takes a way a portion of someone’s life in all situations. Capital punishment just increases the % to 100 and decreases the time and cost.

Exceptions should be made if evidence is not airtight.
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Feb 25 2023 10:36pm
Quote (kusotarre1 @ Feb 25 2023 07:55pm)
Many people have been saved from state execution by the appeal process, because they weren't guilty.

The American (and broader liberal) justice system is heavily slanted toward prosecutorial discretion. They have broad ability to 'solve' a case by sentencing some Black guy to death.

Americans don't care, though, because they view the death penalty as a form of racial supremacy and as a form of communal healing. For both of those things, it doesn't ultimately matter that a false conviction lets the real killer get away.

Which is good, since most serial killers are white people.


Meanwhile, back in the real world.

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Feb 25 2023 11:01pm
Quote (sirthom @ Feb 25 2023 08:36pm)
Meanwhile, back in the real world.

https://i.imgur.com/FgcoA3X.jpg

A mass shooter is anyone who shoots at and injures at least 3 people. America has one of these events an average of 5 days every week.

Not to diminish the depraved extent of America's gun violence issues, but there's a big disconnect between 'mass shooting' and 'serial killer.'

But unsurprisingly from such a racist society, responses here will show that American society as a whole is incapable of a fair court system necessary for implementation of capital punishment. Point out that most of the people who systematically predate on people over a long period of time in American society are white and some racist yahoo will pop up with a mug spread of people who, due to the racism of people like the OP themselves, have been forced into the underground market (itself a policy decision at the highest levels - Nixon specifically).

As I said, America is too immature and ridiculous to have the death penalty. It's a violent, racist society with a prevailing bourgeois class supremacy. Can't be defended.
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