aaaaaand we have another mass shooting in the US (well, of course we do, it's another day in america already):

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/seven-dead-shooting-half-moon-bay-calif-cbs-news-2023-01-24/

they just can't get enough of that sweet, delicious freedom™, huh?

The original post was written by a human so those words cannot be trusted.

commiefornia leftie paradise

This post was edited by TiStuff on Jan 24 2023 07:12am

No, better to slice the mass shooting data by policy lines to backtrace to causes where constituents can effect change. Is the source of your data counting mass shooting events only or lumping more into it? The per capita correlation you are after is a variable, but the equation is dominated by State policy. It's reasonable to say some states have terrible gun policy leading to these numbers. Extremes being gun free zones with thugs packing all sorts of heat, and a over zealous stand your ground nonsense like Texas Chad Reed slaying. These outlier states shouldn't dictate gun policy for the other 40 who are median/avg

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Jan 24 2023 07:16am

you're correct on my numbers. they're wrong. the statistic i was thinking of was related to people and guns related to population density. and honestly has no real relevance to what i thought i was referencing. but uhh, yeah. i dont think in the US, that gun laws can fix the problem. gun laws just infringe and complicate things for law abiding citzens, and leads to them being punished.

i agree a drop in overall firearm density across the country would probably be positive, but again, only law abiding citizens would be giving up their guns. criminals, gangs, ideological extremists of all kinds will always be creating gun violence. from a 1 on 1 shooting, or murder, or drive bys, or extremists and the insane from going on planned rampages/massacres, these people will always commit these atrocities. no matter how strict the laws are regarding owning, operating, or modifying guns. Murder is illegal, people do it, 1st degree, 2nd, 3rd.... manslaughter. doesn't matter. if someone has the intentions, they will break any laws.

regarding the whole thing with kids, and gun deaths in the home, this is due to parents neglect. the guns are too easy to access, and the kids are not educated on their operation, this will always be a problem, i don't see how gun control can fix this. I'm sure if you looked at the statistics, most of the kids who accidentally kill themselves or other kids while playing with guns they shouldn't have, most of their parents are probably criminals. and I'm also sure many aren't supposed to have the guns in the first place.


the whole thing is fucked, but the answer definitely isn't to punish the law abiding citizens. a lot of these liberal governments(like here in Canada) have over reached regarding gun laws to the max, while at the same time, lowering mandatory minimums for criminals of all kinds, including ones who use guns. so that deflates their entire ideology. in Canada specifically, this type of hypocrisy is basically their modus operandi at all times.