Will Brittney serve time domestically for drug trafficking?

I wonder if they'll have a ceremony when she gets off the airplane, with the national anthem playing, so she can get a chance to kneel again

ok i giggled.



i think the argument will be the charges where "trumped up" no pun intended, and therefore she will be allowed to go home. unless someone has a development on this ? while you can frown at her poltical...statements, its clear she was railroaded in russia.

This post was edited by ferdia on Dec 8 2022 10:58am

A famous gay female athlete being imprisoned in a penal colony in Russia is more damaging optically than Paul Whelan or whoever else is out there whose names I don't know.

What do you think the media reaction to this exchange is? You have sports media praising Biden, and you have mainstream political media covering it factually(which looks good for Biden) and serving up pundits who praise the move. Your perspective that it wasn't a good enough deal might be true on the merits(though I disagree), but it doesn't matter. Almost nobody nitpicks a prisoner exchange where there's a 1 to 1 trade, a Russian nobody ever heard of 6 months ago for the most famous WNBA athlete. This isn't the Bowe Bergdahl deal.

From a geopolitical perspective, I think it looks good(and maybe is good) for both sides that our nations can get something done while the Ukraine conflict persists.

You can't unring that bell, though. Those guns are already out there, and the 14 years Bout has spent in prison didn't change that.

to reiterate and be clear, neither of them will be going to prison in their home countries. Russia doesn't acknowledge our arrest of Bout as legitimate and we don't recognize their arrest of Griner as legitimate, neither side is going to honor the other side's prosecutions

100% agree.



yea fair enough. god knows both governments have terrible records re: imprisoning people (we dont need to dwell on this).

This post was edited by ferdia on Dec 8 2022 11:03am

I just think a lot of people posting in this thread are NAIVE as fuck and probably live in a nice cozy suburb.

A black lesbian WNBA player who knowingly brought cannabis extract on a plane to a country that forbids it is traded for a king-pin arms dealer.

Welcome to 2022 where the most illogical decision is the right decision. yay democrackheads

What difference does being black or lesbian make? ^^

Media reaction so far has been pretty negative, be it MSM or social or whatever. If liberal fawning websites can bubble over with criticisms on this kind of announcement, its not like its great optics. And who mediated the deal? MBS. Optics issues galore. Even if its not Bergdahl, its hard for anyone to argue that an arms dealer for WNBA player is a fair exchange, much less when those other americans have at least some visibility and were talked about in news leading up to this. And importantly, it shows that Biden tried to hold out against Putin and instead caved and gave him exactly what he wanted. My perspective is that any deal is better than no deal and we really aren't losing anything on optics when its just making Biden look worse when he's already deep underwater. Its still a net positive, even if its the least possible.

but to give some snapshots of the chatter after this, just scroll down some of these and read the comments
https://twitter.com/breannastewart/status/1600843953644834817
https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/zfyfhc/wnba_star_brittney_griner_released_from_russian/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50kkh0iNvvw